Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Baronage-Phase]

So what? Your claim was "Ireland has always been Ireland." That's as fucking stupid as this idiot you're wasting time replying to.

The island of Ireland has always been it's own island....(up to the invasion and colonisation and rule of the English)
If you want to call it Eire or Hibernia or Ogygia call it that.
If you're being a bit obtuse about that that's your problem not mine.

 

[butchersapron]

The island of Ireland has always been it's own island....(up to the invasion and colonisation and rule of the English)
If you want to call it Eire or Hibernia or Ogygia call it that.
If you're being a bit obtuse about that that's your problem not mine.

You're the prat hiding behind Island and Ireland. Time waster.

 

[Deej92]

For me, none of the options for a future deal put forward by all sides of the Brexit debate will actually gain a majority in parliament, other than the Norway type deal.

Sadly, I can't see May giving her backing to this or to a second referendum. She has listened to the Brexit fanatics on the Tory right from the start of this process and won't shy away from them now.

My preferred option is Norway or failing that a second referendum with the option of remaining in the EU.

I think Brexit will probably happen but it doesn't have to. In a democracy, we should have the right to change our minds when we see we we're lied to and can see that disaster is upon us. Why should future generations who did not vote for this have to live with the consequences of it?

 

[Baronage-Phase]

You're the prat hiding behind Island and Ireland. Time waster.

Poor response from someone who decides Ireland isn't Ireland

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

For me, none of the options for a future deal put forward by all sides of the Brexit debate will actually gain a majority in parliament, other than the Norway type deal.

Sadly, I can't see May giving her backing to this or to a second referendum. She has listened to the Brexit fanatics on the Tory right from the start of this process and won't shy away from them now.

My preferred option is Norway or failing that a second referendum with the option of remaining in the EU.

I think Brexit will probably happen but it doesn't have to. In a democracy, we should have the right to change our minds when we see we we're lied to and can see that disaster is upon us. Why should future generations who did not vote for this have to live with the consequences of it?

Norway has free movement of people with the EU.

 

[butchersapron]

Poor response from someone who decides Ireland isn't Ireland

I said no such thing. Why lie when the record is there - a few posts above. Do you know how close your ideas of destiny are to clown red whatever his name is? No, you don't do you? Ireland is destiny, it is our blood and our soil. Ireland. Even when there was no such thing.

 

[butchersapron]

And you can stick your thumb up back up your racial history where it came from.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

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I said no such thing. Why lie when the record is there - a few posts above. Do you know how close your ideas of destiny are to clown red whatever his name is? No, you don't do you? Ireland is destiny, it is our blood and our soil. Ireland. Even when there was no such thing.

Look fuckwit.....I know my history.
My family goes right back to Brian Boru and further.
You quoting Padraig Pearce to me is a joke. .... with your butchers apron hanging out.

Eta you're calling me a racist? Get over yourself.
Ireland is full of people from hundreds of nations...going back thousands of years...
But...they integrated.
They didn't dominate...the way the English did. The English decided they wanted ownership...just like they did in India and elsewhere.
Go learn your own history. Sir.

 

[butchersapron]

Look fuckwit.....I know my history.
My family goes right back to Brian Boru and further.
You quoting Padraig Pearce to me is a joke. .... with your butchers apron hanging out.

Point proven. And the giants and that no doubt. Mythic history actually influencing someone today here and now.

 

[Deej92]

Norway has free movement of people with the EU.

I'm all for free movement of people. Open borders is better than a world of hard borders.

Immigration is of massive net benefit to Britain's economy and the many industries/sectors that rely on it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

'Our' country is England, well mine is anyway and you sound like a cunt so I'm going to guess you're English as well. Northern Ireland is a country in its own right. You been sniffing the petrol again?

Hmmm. The UK is a weird one as I can't think of any other country whose constituent states are granted in some senses 'country' status in their own right. Wales, for instance, in a practical sense has less independence from the rest of the UK than the states of many federal countries. And NI is doubly weird in that half the people who live there really would like it not to be a 'country' at all. Its making into a country in the first place was a grubby political fix-up. Bit like the old East Germany in that regard.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'm all for free movement of people. Open borders is better than a world of hard borders.

Immigration is of massive net benefit to Britain's economy and the many industries/sectors that rely on it.

Yeah, but to imagine Mayhem and her merry men accepting that is a stretch.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Point proven. And the giants and that no doubt. Mythic history actually influencing someone today here and now.

Ha...Brian Boru existed.
Dear oh dear....so adamant you know what you're talking about but really you know very little of Irish history. How could you? Its not your fault that the history books in England forgot to mention what was done to the Irish.
So... I'll forgive you for not knowing the truth about Irish history at the hands of the English and the Empire.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Hmmm. The UK is a weird one as I can't think of any other country whose constituent states are granted in some senses 'country' status in their own right. Wales, for instance, in a practical sense has less independence from the rest of the UK than the states of many federal countries. And NI is doubly weird in that half the people who live there really would like it not to be a 'country' at all. Its making into a country in the first place was a grubby political fix-up. Bit like the old East Germany in that regard.

No wonder so many people drink so much.

 

[butchersapron]

Ha...Brian Boru existed.
Dear oh dear....so adamant you know what you're talking about but really you know very little of Irish history. How could you? Its not your fault that the history books in England forgot to mention what was done to the Irish.
So... I'll forgive you for not knowing the truth about Irish history at the hands of the English and the Empire.

The giants are the myths you prat - your forefathers no doubt in in this mad racial history.

 

[Deej92]

Yeah, but to imagine Mayhem and her merry men accepting that is a stretch.

I agree sadly.

May will go with whichever direction the Tory right takes her.

She would jump off a cliff for them.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Look fuckwit.....I know my history.
My family goes right back to Brian Boru and further.
You quoting Padraig Pearce to me is a joke. .... with your butchers apron hanging out.

Eta you're calling me a racist? Get over yourself.
Ireland is full of people from hundreds of nations...going back thousands of years...
But...they integrated.
They didn't dominate...the way the English did. The English decided they wanted ownership...just like they did in India and elsewhere.
Go learn your own history. Sir.

Now you're just fantasising!

 

[Baronage-Phase]

The giants are the myths you prat - your forefathers no doubt in in this mad racial history.

I didn't mention giants.
And there is no racism in my posts.
Ireland was ruled by your Monarchy for too long. Me pointing out that fact is not me being racist.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I agree sadly.

May will go with whichever direction the Tory right takes her.

She would jump off a cliff for them.

What a useful statement. No evidence I see.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

I just want the people who live in the North and travel across the border to shop or visit their neighbours and family to have those rights remain without the horror of a border.
The NI border as manned by the British Army was a horrible thing for Catholics and anyone Catholic travelling up to the North. I can remember as a kid being in the car terrified as British soldiers with their guns pointed at the car and them insisting on all of us getting out as they checked the boot.
We went up North to visit family maybe 4 or 5 times a year. Once they saw the southern reg they decided we were to be searched.
Unless you have experienced what it was like then you can't fully understand why the nationalists in the North are very much afraid that their rights could well be trampled on....history has a horrible habit of repeating itself...What is unfair is that the majority in NI voted to remain in the EU but their voice isn't heard or heeded in Westminster and the DUP led by Arlene Foster seem to want to alter the only agreement that has brought peace in NI.
I'm not racist butchersapron.
There are unionists in the North who want to remain in the EU.
There are even unionists in NI who want a united Ireland believe it or not.
What everyone wants here is peace and anyone deciding to mess with the only thing that has worked here is foolish to put it mildly.

 

[Pickman's model]

Norway has free movement of people with the EU.

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

 

[Poi E]

Brexit Bond. Very funny, Moneypenny

 

[sealion]

Arlene Foster was the one that saved the country from the idiot babies aka. Labour

for that she should be given far highter status

IDS talks a lot of sense

Any chance of your dealers number please?

 

[sealion]

In a democracy, we should have the right to change our minds when we see we we're lied to and can see that disaster is upon us.

Like after every general election then?

 

[sealion]

Why should future generations who did not vote for this have to live with the consequences of it?

Agreed, i want a re run of the original vote when my parents were conned.

 

[pocketscience]

I just want the people who live in the North and travel across the border to shop or visit their neighbours and family to have those rights remain without the horror of a border.

The Horror... THE HORROR

 

[RedStag]

For me, none of the options for a future deal put forward by all sides of the Brexit debate will actually gain a majority in parliament, other than the Norway type deal.

Sadly, I can't see May giving her backing to this or to a second referendum. She has listened to the Brexit fanatics on the Tory right from the start of this process and won't shy away from them now.

My preferred option is Norway or failing that a second referendum with the option of remaining in the EU.

I think Brexit will probably happen but it doesn't have to. In a democracy, we should have the right to change our minds when we see we we're lied to and can see that disaster is upon us. Why should future generations who did not vote for this have to live with the consequences of it?

that's rather a classical Orwelllian double-speak post!

 

[RedStag]

Agreed, i want a re run of the original vote when my parents were conned.

nice to see you have such disregard for your parents' intellect and wisdom (add sarcasm icon)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The Horror... THE HORROR

It’s the same between France and Italy. Free movement is sacrosanct, my arse.

 

[RedStag]

it's not sacrosanct because other than the elite of Brussels, and the wishful thinking ideologues amongst the citezenry, it is neither desired nor sensible