Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[butchersapron]

Jesus - just fucking swallow it:

ugh beyond ugh

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Do you remember the official tory govt remain position before the referendum?

Sterling is wrecked

Standard, we like our drink up here.

 

[DexterTCN]

Not very convincing

Scotland found out this week that those WM pricks had told the EU that any deal for NI had to be one that couldn't also apply to Scotland.

Scotland's just about ready to go, we're just waiting on the signal.

 

[butchersapron]

Fantastic (need to stop watching, getting hooked)

(i hear his role in mandy is quite up there with this)

 

[Winot]

Corbyn calling on EU to stop their political games.

"The political games from both the EU and our Government need to end"

Is he just fucking stupid? Can't he see this open goal? Why is he backing up Tory spin?

I've just seen this described as the 'second mouse gets the cheese' theory, which seems about right as descriptions go.

 

[butchersapron]

I've just seen this described as the 'second mouse gets the cheese' theory, which seems about right as descriptions go.

What's the cheese in your view?

 

[Poi E]

Scotland found out this week that those WM pricks had told the EU that any deal for NI had to be one that couldn't also apply to Scotland.

Scotland's just about ready to go, we're just waiting on the signal.

I'd be careful about UDI. The British Army conducted exercises this year centered around a breakaway region.

 

[DexterTCN]

I'd be careful about UDI. The British Army conducted exercises this year centered around a breakaway region.

#indyref2 #Dissolvetheunion

 

[butchersapron]

This anti-somerset stuff has to end. I'm sick of it. We're all sick of it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Chequers goes pop.

Oh very good

 

[SpackleFrog]

It could turn out as a political masterstroke for labour if they call for a 2nd ref at the right time - half the political establishment would be grovelling in gratitude for and it could potentially give labour some political cover to do evil corbynite things like build some more council houses. Meanwhile the tory would be royally fucked - brexiteers would hate them for blowing it, remainers would want a 2nd ref, everyone else would see them as utterly incompetent. Death spiral etc

Just picking up on this logic, are there not some flaws in the argument that Corbyn could maybe persuade the establishment that a little bit of "Socialism" might be ok in exchange for retaining EU membership, how likely is it that the ruling class would be both mollified and grateful and could it potentially cause Labour some issues in Leave constituencies that voted Labour last year in massive numbers?

 

[butchersapron]

Oh very good

He def made it up.

 

[Pickman's model]

He def made it up.

Didn't know it'd been all over the place yesterday

 

[A380]

This anti-somerset stuff has to end. I'm sick of it. We're all sick of it.

No blood for cheddar!

 

[rekil]

What's the cheese in your view?

Briemain?

 

[A380]

Hers's a thought.

So we crash out of the EU and then Scotland have an indy referendum which they win and then re-join the EU.

As we are all British passport holders, could I as an English person get a Scottish, and so EU passport?

What's the view?

 

[butchersapron]

Briemain?

Used to like you. Looked up to you.

 

[andysays]

Hers's a thought.

So we crash out of the EU and then Scotland have an indy referendum which they win and then re-join the EU.

As we are all British passport holders, could I as an English person get a Scottish, and so EU passport?

What's the view?

Despite what DexterTCN might want to believe, Scotland won't be having an Indy ref on 30 March 2019, and if they eventually do leave the UK, it will take the new country some time to negotiate admission to the EU.

In the run-up to the previous Indy ref, I think I remember that the SNP were suggesting that anyone with one grandparent born in Scotland could claim citizenship. I would qualify under those rules, don't know about you...

 

[Ranbay]

He def made it up.

 

[gosub]

Despite what DexterTCN might want to believe, Scotland won't be having an Indy ref on 30 March 2019, and if they eventually do leave the UK, it will take the new country some time to negotiate admission to the EU.

In the run-up to the previous Indy ref, I think I remember that the SNP were suggesting that anyone with one grandparent born in Scotland could claim citizenship. I would qualify under those rules, don't know about you...

It'll do EFTA in half the time

 

[DexterTCN]

Despite what DexterTCN might want to believe, Scotland won't be having an Indy ref on 30 March 2019, and if they eventually do leave the UK, it will take the new country some time to negotiate admission to the EU.

In the run-up to the previous Indy ref, I think I remember that the SNP were suggesting that anyone with one grandparent born in Scotland could claim citizenship. I would qualify under those rules, don't know about you...

It's a 300 page form written in Gaelic.

That's what we've been working on these last 4 years

 

[danny la rouge]

Hers's a thought.

So we crash out of the EU and then Scotland have an indy referendum which they win and then re-join the EU.

As we are all British passport holders, could I as an English person get a Scottish, and so EU passport?

What's the view?

Move to Scotland. This makes you a Scot.

Unless you have some other claim, like Scottish parents, grandparents etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

Move to Scotland. This makes you a Scot.

Unless you have some other claim, like Scottish parents, grandparents etc.

... A tartan named after you...

 

[danny la rouge]

... A tartan named after you...

The Ancient Danny, in my case.

 

[MickiQ]

Hers's a thought.

So we crash out of the EU and then Scotland have an indy referendum which they win and then re-join the EU.

As we are all British passport holders, could I as an English person get a Scottish, and so EU passport?

What's the view?

If Scotland breaks away from the UK then I imagine some deal will have to be agreed, I would suspect people born there would automatically be Scottish citizens and people living there but not born there would get a choice.
I suspect Scotland will be covered by the same rules as Ireland now, Irish citizens can come here, work and vote as if they were British.
Part of the GFA was that anyone born in NI could apply for Irish citizenship if they wanted it, it was meant to be a sop to Sinn Fein but now its actually worth something and loads of Northern Irish are applying for Irish citizenship.
After the Brexit vote, my daughters boyfriend who is from Eire but has lived here for almost 7 years checked up on British citizenship for him and Irish citizenship for her.
They did neither even though getting British citizenship for him was straightforward it was ridiculously expensive something like £1400 so he isn't bothering. Irish citizenship for her would mean them getting married (which would please my wife) and going and living in Ireland for 3 years (which wouldn't)
I would imagine Scotland would be the same kind of deal so no Scots citizenship for you pal sorry.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

My sister is Scottish, has no one thought about siblings? No. Fucking scum.

 

[MickiQ]

My sister is Scottish, has no one thought about siblings? No. Fucking scum.

How can your sister be Scottish and you not?

 

[A380]

My sister is Scottish, has no one thought about siblings? No. Fucking scum.

How does that work then?

 

[A380]

Move to Scotland. This makes you a Scot.

Unless you have some other claim, like Scottish parents, grandparents etc.

I like shortbread, will that be enough?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

It's a 300 page form written in Gaelic.

That's what we've been working on these last 4 years

Picts speaking the language of the Celtic oppressor disgust me!