Is Brexit actually going to happen?
- Thread starter Kaka Tim
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A local demo for local people
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The person with the placard is anything but a young briton
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I notice that he has run out of 'E' stencils and has had to use a sideways 'M' instead. Or maybe he is just making a stand against typographical regulation; the sort of thing we will soon be free of.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
I'll have a few euros on it with you, although purple tie man looks fucking angry, i don't reckon he's got the bollocks for a row. Seconds out round one ,,,,
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
That's without bringing his attire in to the equation
It's the kind of sartorial disaster that seems popular in places like Madrid.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Youv'e nailed it. He's a matador
It's the kind of sartorial disaster that seems popular in places like Madrid.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
or statue
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
It's almost like it hasn't happened yet!.Looking back at the guardians headlines is good for a laugh too! I havn't seen an aeroplane since we voted
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
Already voting those pesky human rights out of UK law though!
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
It was supposed to happen the day after the vote according to the remianers in fleet street.
bimble
floofy
Happily they were wrong and everything is going Just Fine.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Thanks for that little miss echo.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
^^^What else was there ?
Immediate recession- We have had growth and Marc Carney saying he's quietly optimistic about brexit
Up to 3 million people will lose ther jobs- job seekers numbers fell
Universities will lose it's funding horizon 2020- Funding remains in place.
Loads of misinformation on both sides, but the leavers were the only ones lied to
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Raheem
Well-Known Member
What else was there ?
Immediate recession- We have had growth and Marc Carney saying he's quietly optimistic about brexit
Up to 3 million people will lose ther jobs- job seekers numbers fell
Universities will lose it's funding horizon 2020- Funding remains in place.
Loads of misinformation on both sides, but the leavers were the only ones lied to
Who is it that predicted an immediate recession or 3 million job loses or losing Horizon 2020 funding before we even leave the EU?
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Remainers. There was piles of it, did you not read the guardian and other liberal rags at the time.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Not as much as I heard leave talking heads bullshitting about it.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
There you have it ^^ Your lies/ bullshit were worse than our lies and bullshit
Raheem
Well-Known Member
There you have it ^^ Your lies/ bullshit were worse than our lies and bullshit
That's certainly how it is, but you're missing the point. Forecasts that don't come true are not necessarily lies or bullshit in the first place.
But believing in a fantasy where all the doom-mongers have been proven wrong and actually Brexit is all going pretty well? I can't believe I'm having to point out that it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
And even if you are a Brexiteer, look at the inept way the government is handling it and the fact they've had give in to all the EU's preconditions - and the negotiations over the deal haven't even started yet, I wouldn't be crowing.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
I think the impossibility of brexit is negotiating a trade deal that can only be worse that the one you have already. The purpose of negotiation is to make something better. If you want to make something worse you don’t negotiate you just say fuck off & die you bunch of cunts. Whether one is a leaver or remainer & whatever one thinks of the EU that is the main difficulty I think.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
And which side has stated that the end result must be a worse outcome for 60 million current EU citizens?
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
It is not possible to leave the EU & have as good a trade deal with the rest of the EU as if you were still a member of the EU. That the EU has stated this is beside the point. You don’t negotiate to make something worse. If you want to make something worse you don’t negotiate at all. I’m not taking sides here leave or remain. I’m pointing out that negotiation to make something worse than what you have already is a contradiction in terms. This is the impossibility of brexit.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Why not?
The UK voted to leave the EU, that’s all. The EU has responded by taking the position that the UK must be worse off financially outside than inside and their negotiating strategy is aimed at fulfilling that ideal and bugger the human cost of their position.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
They are looking after the political interests of the EU27 - what do you expect them to do? Since when have moral arguments ever trumped national self interest?
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
You can't have a club that allows non-members all the benefits of membership.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Quite. But SaskiaJayne stated that it is not possible to leave the EU etc. That is not true. However the EU could well have used Brexit to their advantage in a positive manner, but instead chose from day one to take a negative approach, and as SaskiaJayne corrrectly states, that is no way to conduct negotiations.
Like everyone, I dispair at how ill-prepared the UK government has been over this, but that is matched by the EU’s shock at the result of the referendum and shit way they have blundered on from there. Both sides are bollocksing things up quite spectacularly, which is a shame as things could so easily be better for the citizens of the EU and the soon to be ex-citizens if those we have trusted (and paid handsomely) to handle things weren’t such fucking twats.
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