Iran
- Thread starter J.C.Decaux
- Start date
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yes, I'll take that bet. As with most bets I wouldnt go as far as to bet my life on it, but for me that possibility firmly remains in the pile of useless things to fret about that get endlessly recycled. eg people thought Dubya might try that shit. I can think the unthinkable when the time is right so if it was actually going to happen I would not neglect to notice it looming on the short range radar. But I'm not going to spend any time wondering whether noise on my medium or long range radar could be this shit unfolding.
It takes rather exceptional circumstances to pull that shit off within a liberal democratic system without it being seen as a massive power grab that marks the end of that democratic system, which would be subject to quite the backlash. Even if Trump & Co are more likely than many to attempt it under the right conditions, we are a very long way away from the right conditions. And the USAs current level of deomestic oil production makes it much harder to imagine getting anywhere close to such a scenario for 'the homeland'. Plus there is additional historical baggage in the form of a US raw nerve about events in Iran affecting a US presidential election. Also the exceptional conditions under which such a move might possibly be tolerated tend to be ones where the scope and timescale of the crisis are somewhat clearly defined, so that people have a sense of how long the presidential term might be extended by and that there be some kind of obvious endgame rather than an open ended extended rule.
not-bono-ever
meh
Nice bit of reading from the autocue donald
Iol, I’ll take your bet - have you seen the bunch of non starters the Dems are offering up? They know they are going to lose so have had this impeachment fiasco that Pelosi is/isn’t going to further anymore
Trump doesn’t need hostilities with Iran to keep him in power, the Dems are doing it for him.
Last edited:
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Wow
Cid
Proper break this time
Thanks folks.
Still shedding no tears though.
To be fair there's some stuff linking that account to him/his office. Link between twitter account and assassination that has probably been months/years in the making probably a bit more of a stretch though.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
What elbows said. This is the type of silliness that plays into the hands of both Trump and the Iranian government.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Surprised at some here. The elections are inviolable. Effecting them not so
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What a surprise
elbows
Well-Known Member
Indeed. I'm not sure why I left even a small amount of room open for it in my post. At the very least its a key 'necessary illusion', one that it is hard to imagine anyone throwing away unless the current order and form of democracy was done for, with very different methods waiting in the wings.
teqniq
DisMembered
Well now. As observers on twitter have noted I too wonder if any of them invested in oil futures and defence as a consequence. Looks highly likely that insider trading can be added to the list of criminal activities.
www.thedailybeast.com
Trump Told Mar-a-Lago Pals to Expect ‘Big’ Iran Action ‘Soon’
Attendees of a closed-door Senate briefing didn’t get much more clarity than the club guests did. Instead, officials spun Soleimani’s slaying as a way to “de-escalate” tensions.
not-bono-ever
meh
whats the point of conflict if no one profits ?
Agree with your views, perhaps I should have put innocents rather than everyone.
But the old cycle of humans on one side murdering humans on a different side continues whilst the world burns and slowly submerges.
Last edited:
The Anarchist Era Collective’s statement on the assassination of an Iranian state terrorist - Freedom News
Qasem Soleimani has long tormented the people and we congratulate the survivors of his crimes in the Middle East, particularly Syria, Iraq and Yemen. And while we are glad for the death of this war criminal, we declare our strong opposition to the possibility of a state war (between US state...
freedomnews.org.uk
Statement by the Anarchist Union of Iran and Afghanistan
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Who are they? Why should we care what they think? What do you think of what they think? What do you think yourself?The Anarchist Era Collective’s statement on the assassination of an Iranian state terrorist - Freedom News
Qasem Soleimani has long tormented the people and we congratulate the survivors of his crimes in the Middle East, particularly Syria, Iraq and Yemen. And while we are glad for the death of this war criminal, we declare our strong opposition to the possibility of a state war (between US state...
Statement by the Anarchist Union of Iran and Afghanistan
elbows
Well-Known Member
Obviously the raw nerve I was referring to was always about more than the layer of dubious presidential election politics played with it back in the day, and it hasnt taken Trump long to make a symbolic reference to it:
Trump says US ready to strike 52 Iranian sites if Tehran attacks
President Trump says the US will strike key Iranian sites if Iran attacks Americans or US assets.
www.bbc.co.uk
Perhaps one day his prestige restoration facade will include a trade deal renegotiation with Vietnam that involves lots of superfluous helicopters flying back to Saigon.
There are some pretty significant Clues in the link I posted as to who they are. I happen to agree with their statement and they are from the region so I thought I'd share it. I think people should try and support them if they can.
Thought their statement was quite interesting, I didn't know much about this Soleimani guy and was not aware that he has, for example, recruited child soldiers.
Recently there was rebellion in Iran (which is ongoing) and us anarchists are fearful that this escalation with the US will be used to stamp out any dissent in the country, but we think that, if people can, they should try and support groups like this in any way they can.
Last edited:
Similar threads
