butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And the US would be up shit creek without that MASSIVE £134.7 Billion of sales over half a century.
Iran
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Given what the Israeli government and military get up to, it's very badly directed cash.
Saudi is no fucking better, but their cash is just as welcome as Israel's when it comes to massive arms sales.
Who cares? They only kill people we hardly ever see on the news so it's unimportant ... or maybe it's a right old bastard we can do shit all about but bloody should.
Saudi is no fucking better, but their cash is just as welcome as Israel's when it comes to massive arms sales.
Who cares? They only kill people we hardly ever see on the news so it's unimportant ... or maybe it's a right old bastard we can do shit all about but bloody should.
Probably not, but it's a lot more than that in reality.
One aircraft to a possibly anti Israeli country means two to Israel in order to keep that country's superiority.
Much as it's way wrong in every possible way, it's an absolutely fantastic geopolitics for cash scheme with no likely end until Israel finally dies ... then they'll find someone else to love, hate or destabilise.
Iran is a lovely example - Stuff a puppet in and supply arms - When the puppet gets kicked out, supply arms to everyone else and build a load of bases that need loads of weapons - Then wait until the next one or, if it's too long, start a nice profitable war, then create the next one.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
hardly us gdp annually is $19 trillion uk is 2.6
so its a handy subsidy to the US defence sector but hardly going to cause them major problems they also supply weapons to Egypt on the understanding they don't attack Israel which they aren't planning to as the Egyptian army isn't stupid
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Do you not maybe think this was my point and that you'd do better to look at other strategic interests behind US support of Israel than supporting US based arms trade?
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Of course there's a lot more than in my post, but arms sales are absolutely massive and the US arms industry bribes (Sorry, gives campaign contributions) to enough in Congress and the Senate to ensure wars get voted for.
The arms industry in the US has the job off to perfection with jobs in lots of states so politicians either get paid to vote for war, or vote against and lose personal cash and jobs in their areas.
That's why, if the powers that be want Iran fucked over, no bugger can stop it.
No one bugger but maybe huge numbers of them. A UK - Iran fight would guarantee the US jumping in. Bibi wouldn't have to risk one pilot. But still seems to me the orange one's advisers are saying stay out until the election is over.Sir, me sir, I did sir
Of course there's a lot more than in my post, but arms sales are absolutely massive and the US arms industry bribes (Sorry, gives campaign contributions) to enough in Congress and the Senate to ensure wars get voted for.
The arms industry in the US has the job off to perfection with jobs in lots of states so politicians either get paid to vote for war, or vote against and lose personal cash and jobs in their areas.
That's why, if the powers that be want Iran fucked over, no bugger can stop it.
Bloody good advice as the Iranians have enough stuff to seriously threaten a US carrier or two, and you can bet flattops would be priority targets.
The Iranians now have sub fired cruise, Kilos along with mini and midget subs that could endanger an invading US navy, as well as anti aircraft missile systems that could easily down a good few US aircraft. They claim to be able to kill stealth aircraft but that's unlikely as Israel seems to have flown some F35 sorties over Iran undetected.
It's very possible Iran could score a good few big hits that would see some ships on the bottom with lots of US dead, and that would be very bad for Trump.
He wouldn't give a shit about the people, only his electability if he fucked up.
The Iranians could well have a blast at US ships if the orange idiot went for the moronic 'bloody nose' thing he suggested for North Korea.
That would, potentially, be a massive mistake for both sides, but legitimate retaliation if the US committed an act of war.
That would, potentially, be a massive mistake for both sides, but legitimate retaliation if the US committed an act of war.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
We defend the brave ships who have purchased our flag.
One ship max. No navy fuel tanker support thus far. Navy to guard UK ships in strait of Hormuz, MoD says
One ship max. No navy fuel tanker support thus far. Navy to guard UK ships in strait of Hormuz, MoD says
If the silly fucker hadn't taken that Iranian oil there wouldn't be a problem
TopCat
Putin fanboy
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Desperation.
Despite the warm words France and Germany were simply unwilling to stump up the assets for a European/Non-US force - the UK on the other hand offered the two escorts, the four mine counter measure s ships, and the Tanker, as well as use of the RN base at Bahrain.
Seeing that the proposed European/non-US force is going nowhere, the UK has - very reluctantly (much more than you might think) climbed into the US hosted force.
There's absolute exasperation at the MOD and FCO - neither are keen on Brexit, both have concerns about being dragged into US policy on Iran - and yet again the Europeans, despite all the words spoken about European security and the need for a non-US focused policy and doctrine, just won't stump up the goods even when the UK position is exactly in accordance with their own.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
a 20 year old woman, Saba Kord Afshari, has been sentenced to 24 years in prison in Iran for protesting about the compulsory hijab.
Saba Afshari sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab in public
Saba Afshari sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab in public
not-bono-ever
meh
So the new PM had meeting with Netanyahu , who demanded that the U.K. drop support for Iran talks. Downing Street have come back saying this is a non starter, referring to Johnson’s brief tenure as Foreign Johnny and his then reiteration of the need for a dialogue ( quite sensible for him but not all his own work IYKWIM). However behind the scenes there is huge lobbying for Britain to jump ship on this - obvs Germany and France are determined to keep the discussions alive while the great Satan has its own agenda. Shitting on the Franco German position is being discussed. Civil servants involved in in his business are worried about future direction. This is just a post it note to myself for future reference .
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Crazy stuff.
US offered millions to Iranian tanker captain
US offered millions to Iranian tanker captain
OMG Iran will have nuclear weapons within 6 weeks (as usual).
I don't believe a word that cunt says.
gosub
~#
I'd find UN weapons inspectors more credible (though a slight wiff of deva vue) but after Adrian Darya 1... (effectively $1 mill each for never working again not being enough)....Iran is a bit too much "what can we get away with"
I have no trust in them at all. I was stupid enough to believe the Iraq lies and I dislike repeating mistakes.
Apart from that, they didn't break the deal and I see no reason to accept US sanctions anyway as that country has done far more than they say Iran is up to.
That isn't support for the Iranian government because there's a lot they're up to that I really dislike, but another US war is far from a cure for their problems, more a recipe for disaster.
Apart from that, they didn't break the deal and I see no reason to accept US sanctions anyway as that country has done far more than they say Iran is up to.
That isn't support for the Iranian government because there's a lot they're up to that I really dislike, but another US war is far from a cure for their problems, more a recipe for disaster.
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
That's truly horrific.
Women are treated shockingly in Iran. Not allowed to cycle, sing, dance, enter sports stadiums, and must always be covered by veil. Fucking awful.
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