I joined the Labour Party...

[butchersapron]

Don't be so rude about butchers!

Labour party humour. Fantastic!

Isn't it?

 

[J Ed]

Jeremy Corbyn's Team Launch Ongoing Activist Campaign

“We’d hope to demonstrate through getting organised we can get good outcomes,” a spokesperson for the campaign told BuzzFeed News. “By helping people to get organised and using the principles of collective co-operation and solidarity we hope to show – on a micro scale – how Labour if they got into government could transform the county and society on a massive scale.”

It will also form organisations along geographic lines or on issues that will enable the left-wing movement to “deliver things now” with the Conservatives set to remain in government for another four years. One of the first proposals is to create a Momentum-aligned campaign group for the rights of private-sector tenants which would provide legal advice and help people get back their deposits.

 

[youngian]

Corbyn got the leadership job he never sought as his SPAD opponents were so useless. But I suspect he hasn't got the momentum to win a conker fight in the playground let alone take on Osborne and Crosby in 2020. Luckily Labour had the good sense to make Tom Watson deputy, a top class nasty operator who'll hopefully stick the Tories with their own medicine.

 

[ViolentPanda]

and sometimes stalinist teachers

Reminds self to check membership rolls for Norfolk CLPs.

 

[DotCommunist]

Corbyn got the leadership job he never sought as his SPAD opponents were so useless. But I suspect he hasn't got the momentum to win a conker fight in the playground let alone take on Osborne and Crosby in 2020. Luckily Labour had the good sense to make Tom Watson deputy, a top class nasty operator who'll hopefully stick the Tories with their own medicine.

Hammer of the nonces and political brawler he may be but he's also of the NL mould. Whats the point of having them win with that in mind and him in the big chair? I mean, I'm not voting anyway, but for anyone who wanted the new politics (suspiciously not new but hey ho)? Wheres the mandate of greyskull?

 

[SpineyNorman]

I'm not gonna join but I am enjoying the show and genuinely wish the likes of TopCat the very best of luck. I'd probably vote for a Corbyn-led labour party in a GE if I lived somewhere my vote mattered but Gary Glitter could get elected round here if he stood on a labour ticket so I probably won't be arsed.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Corbyn got the leadership job he never sought as his SPAD opponents were so useless. But I suspect he hasn't got the momentum to win a conker fight in the playground let alone take on Osborne and Crosby in 2020. Luckily Labour had the good sense to make Tom Watson deputy, a top class nasty operator who'll hopefully stick the Tories with their own medicine.

Was that deliberate? It would be something of a consolation if Urban didn't rate the £3 Trot entryist collective for streetfighting skills.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

There is talk of over 50 Labour MPs voting to bomb Syria.

I hope everyone, especially new joiners and affiliates can contact their personal MP to persuade them to oppose the deepening madness.

I believe what made the difference in 2013 was people badgering individual MPs. Finding out who the "wobble" crew are and getting people to contact them using, for example, localised FB groups, might be crucial. What has changed since then? in fact it's worse and even more nuts to bomb.

This is perhaps the first chance for the new intake to flex their muscles.

 

[DownwardDog]

Was that deliberate? It would be something of a consolation if Urban didn't rate the £3 Trot entryist collective for streetfighting skills.

All of the good domain names with 'militant' in them were already taken.

 

[Rob Ray]

All of the good domain names with 'militant' in them were already taken.

militantkittens.org is still available if you're into that sort of thing.

 

[articul8]

Maybe they can fight the red pepper bandwagon network for the title of the real voice of hope.

They are not necessarily in contradiction - but RP will advocate for groups to have significant autonomy not get treated like stage armies

 

[malatesta32]

labour needs this kind of politician to cheer everyone up!
Seymour Cocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Puddy_Tat]

militantkittens.org is still available if you're into that sort of thing.

out of curiosity, this came up on a search

wonder if there might be a pact with proletaricat democracy?

 

[Pickman's model]

labour needs this kind of politician to cheer everyone up!
Seymour Cocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or like attlee, gaitskell or indeed john smith: labour needs more dead politicians.

 

[Pickman's model]

militantkittens.org is still available if you're into that sort of thing.

all of the good names with militant in gone then

 

[DaveCinzano]

wonder if there might be a pact with proletaricat demogracy?

CFY

 

[DotCommunist]

labour needs this kind of politician to cheer everyone up!
Seymour Cocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ah yes, the man whose running mate was often Mike Hunt

 

[DaveCinzano]

ah yes, the man whose running mate was often Mike Hunt

Careful now

 

[treelover]

See all the old faces are on the Labour First FB page, Akehurst, even Derek Draper, thought he had dropped out of politics to pursue his counselling career, Draper, a counsellor!

 

[JHE]

See all the old faces are on the Labour First FB page, Akehurst, even Derek Draper, thought he had dropped out of politics to pursue his counselling career, Draper, a counsellor!

He's probably offering his services to poor old Burnham, Cooper, Kendall and assorted other traumatised Labour MPs

 

[agricola]

labour needs this kind of politician to cheer everyone up!
Seymour Cocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why? They already have someone called Woodcock at the head of a splinter movement.

 

[youngian]

There is a website too Momentum: A new kind of politics

Like Progress, Momentum sounds like a team from the Apprentice. In the very unlikely event Momentum even registers with the public, will anyone have any idea what they are for or why they aren't calling themselves the Labour Party? Which is the party Jeremy leads. But his leadership will live or die by his poll ratings and his ability to win elections in the two years. If it goes tits up, no calls to 'mobilise the masses' from pissy grass roots populist groups will save his arse.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

But his leadership will live or die by his poll ratings and his ability to win elections in the two years..

Really? I didn't think that issues like that bothered the Corbynjugend one little bit. His electorate voted him in for his ideological purity, not for what the focus groups of Nuneaton would think.

 

[belboid]

Really? I didn't think that issues like that bothered the Corbynjugend one little bit. His electorate voted him in for his ideological purity, not for what the focus groups of Nuneaton would think.

'ideological purity'? Please, put down the Dan Hodges and engage a brain. People voted for him because of his principles, which is a rather different thing.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

I don't see how the way we choose to describe how Corbyn comes to say and do the things he says and does affects the point, which was that he will be tricky to oust however disastrous he is (and he is).

And I put down Hodges when he mistook glib, mendacious flirting with the centre ground in Manchester for the real thing. Disappointed in the lad.

 

[andysays]

'ideological purity'? Please, put down the Dan Hodges and engage a brain. People voted for him because of his principles, which is a rather different thing.

Some of them might even have voted for him because they realise that the Labour Party hasn't been doing that well attracting votes and winning elections with the recent approach of "copy the Tories on policy but with a little bit of gentle reassuring rhetoric thrown in", and think that they might actually be more electable, even among "the focus groups of Nuneaton", with a return to some vaguely social-democratic principles.

Crazy talk, obviously...

 

[sihhi]

See all the old faces are on the Labour First FB page, Akehurst, even Derek Draper, thought he had dropped out of politics to pursue his counselling career, Draper, a counsellor!

Aside about the state of the country/Labour. Damian McBride became a manager /assistant to a head teacher at a secondary school, then a senior manager at CAFOD.

 

[youngian]

Really? I didn't think that issues like that bothered the Corbynjugend one little bit. His electorate voted him in for his ideological purity, not for what the focus groups of Nuneaton would think.

Whatever ideological purity is and whoever the ideological purists are I don't think they were paying much attention to the message. Corbyn and McDonnell put forward a creative Rhineland/Nordic type social democratic economic plan against a load of vapid hot air from his Labour leadership opponents. The sort of vapid hot air which voters in Nuneaton or anywhere else wouldn't understand a word of. And I don't think a party that also gave a huge majority to Tom Watson did so with their head in the clouds.

 

[J Ed]

Really? I didn't think that issues like that bothered the Corbynjugend one little bit. His electorate voted him in for his ideological purity, not for what the focus groups of Nuneaton would think.

Corbynjugend? Are you having some sort of break down?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Whatever ideological purity is and whoever the ideological purists are I don't think they were paying much attention to the message. Corbyn and McDonnell put forward a creative Rhineland/Nordic type social democratic economic plan against a load of vapid hot air from his Labour leadership opponents. Which voters in Nuneaton or anywhere else wouldn't understand a word of. And I don't think a party that also gave a huge majority to Tom Watson did so with their head in the clouds.

What wouldn't they understand, the social democratic economics or the vapid hot air? If it's the former then I think you are doing people a disservice; if the later than not so surprising given its lack of actual content.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice