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Good for Prescott laying into Warner in this piece from last year

"Lord Warner, a career civil servant, was actively involved in advising private healthcare firms who have lucrative contracts in the NHS.

Last year he was the only Labour peer to vote with the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats on proposed NHS regulations to allow companies to bid for almost all health services.

When he was called before a parliamentary select committee to discuss his lobbying as a peer for private healthcare, he said: “The point I’m trying to make is that we do not have constituents. There is not a group of people who have voted for us... We are not elected to represent a particular geographical area and we are not paid a salary.”

But he was nominated by Labour to be one of its peers.

Warner admitted he does not represent the people. Instead he speaks up for the private healthcare industry through his private consultancy firm Sage Advice Ltd"

NHS will charge a fee over my dead body - whatever 'Labour' traitors and private healthcare vultures might think
 
I know what you mean.

Although not sure there are hundreds of labour councils. Even assuming all the blairites went along with it, they would probably not get this through in those councils where labour is a minority / 'no overall control' administration relying on support from smaller parties.

And quite a few labour councils did stand up to the thatcher government, and the tories used it as justification for stripping even more powers from councils, and peddling the line that labour couldn't be trusted to run things, which to a large extent, the public bought.

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With the hundreds/thousands figure I was thinking of town councils and so on too (there are 9000 town and parish councils). Apparently there are 433 'principle authorities', of which Labour control 35%. Political make-up of local councils in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I went to my first local ward meeting this evening and was really encouraged. There were apparently 2, 3, even 4 times the usual number of people there. Several were new members who joined because of Jeremy Corbyn and the possibilities his election might entail. A few were ex-members who'd resigned on a principle (mostly Iraq) and had now re-joined. Some were long-standing members who hadn't previously been active. Just over half were white. Just over half were obviously middle class.

We spent a lot of time - too much, in several people's vocal opinion - hearing from a Labour council cabinet member about how they were going to implement Tory budget cuts (and about how we needed to get out there and doorstep people to explain why we needed to make them). The main response, from several people, was: "why are you doing this?"; "what would happen if you didn't?"; "can you explain the difference between what you're doing and a Tory council?".

I went to my first local branch meeting tonight and it was remarkably similar to this. Just over half new members or recent rejoiners including a group of really enthusiastic twentysomethings. And existing members overjoyed to see so many people. Then the meeting dominated by fairly pointless reports from parish and district councillors and a bit of a turf war between them. There was a sense from the newer members that this isn't entirely what we've signed up for... but early days in terms of changing the agenda. Really friendly and welcoming... but a bit frustrating and bureaucratic. It felt part social club, part rusty machinery for winning elections, with not much space left for actual politics.

I might go along to the constituency meeting and see what that's like as it's on an all-members basis here rather than delegates. At the moment I feel like an observer of a strange new world rather than a party member but perhaps I will be assimilated in due course.
 
no eric joyce offering people out? parliament is not what it was
no one shooting the prime minister in the grand lobby either - it's terrible to see how parliament's declined

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You should have asked to see where Guy Fawkes got caught.
surely that cellar was destroyed when they rebuilt the palace of westminster after some victorian bellend managed to a) destroy 600 years worth of fascinating financial records by burning them

and b) burn the whole gaff down
 
surely that cellar was destroyed when they rebuilt the palace of westminster after some victorian bellend managed to a) destroy 600 years worth of fascinating financial records by burning them

and b) burn the whole gaff down
Stick that in your pipe rolls.
 
It's stuff like that which makes me think the salt mines aren't such a bad idea after all.
60k a year before they have touched expenses and the cunts can't even stop the yaar booing for long enough to make PMQs look a bit less like a fucking charade. You can't even pay the cunts to pretend to take us seriously.
 
Pickman's model are you saying my suggestion is too flippant or not Baroque enough? :confused:

In all honesty though tbh I'm thinking it's only a question of time before some desperate soul decides they've had enough and opts for something along those lines.

I know there's the stoicism and 'we don't do that sort of thing' here in the UK, but still....
 
Pickman's model are you saying my suggestion is too flippant or not Baroque enough? :confused:

In all honesty though tbh I'm thinking it's only a question of time before some desperate soul decides they've had enough and opts for something along those lines.

I know there's the stoicism and 'we don't do that sort of thing' here in the UK, but still....
neither too flippant nor not baroque enough but too quick and not sufficiently painful.
 
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