It's racist to make their "appearance" an issue at all.
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
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It's racist to make their "appearance" an issue at all.
not-bono-ever
meh
That is horrendous- for the women primarily. Many Germans wavering on the migrant issue may have their hand forced now. Utter utter wankers
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
In that case, it's sexist to mention that it was men attacking women. Why not just say a large group of people attacked another group of people?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so if, say, you were sought for a driving offence you'd say that it'd be racist to say white man sought for serial running red lights.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
for the hard of thinking, the reporter is reporting comments made by the cologne police chief.
"Thought" by whom? On what basis?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i see you're studiously avoiding answering the question i put to you on page 1.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the men or the women?
But no media outlet would say that, would they?
Why not? Because when white people commit crimes, their race isn't considered relevant.
Do you really need me to tell you why that is?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i would prefer you to answer the question i put to you on page one.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
well maybe they're going by witness statements
i agree that police racism may be involved in the case but reporting what the police have said isn't racism
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
if 1000 allegedly german men attacked women in istanbul in one night it would be a massive story tbh.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
ah sure it is in dwyerland
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
If, as the article seems to imply, the attackers were all recently arrived as refugees, then it certainly is newsworthy given the community tensions we all know exist in Germany. Ignoring that aspect of the story just gives more strength to the likes of Pegida, who thrive off of the idea that the 'PC Brigade' (or German equivalent) are leading the country to the dogs. The only way to dampen such tensions are to stamp down hard on the perpetrators, regardless of race.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
i still don't think we should speculate on their ethnicity though, i mean it may be possible that some of a particular race and not others. And the police could be talking shit.
if it's confirmed the far right will make a huge big deal out of this. very worrying
if it's confirmed the far right will make a huge big deal out of this. very worrying
Wouldn't they? Surely if someone is being sought by police in connection with a crime, their race would be part of the description issued?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
according to deutsche welle many of the women attacked described their assailants as of north african appearance: tbh that genie's likely out the bottle.i still don't think we should speculate on their ethnicity though, i mean it may be possible that some of a particular race and not others. And the police could be talking shit.
if it's confirmed the far right will make a huge big deal out of this. very worrying
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
it could be an article about basket weaving and there would be racist comments.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A white person's race wouldn't be mentioned in the media's reporting of a crime though. Non-white people are much more likely to be identified by race, because the media assumes--and tries to inculcate the assumption--that their race was a contributory factor to their committing the crime.
This is a textbook example.
not-bono-ever
meh
britain frist and its ilk are already pumping this out - doesnt matter what the truth is, the dots have been irreversibly joined for many.
terrible terrible outcome
terrible terrible outcome
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ties right into the old 'our women under threat' angle the far right are fond of.
Reno
The In Kraut
In Germany the vast majority of the population is white therefore any perpetrators would be assumed to be white unless reported otherwise.
We all love a racist conspiracy on Urban though, don't we ? That's far more important than any thought of the perps being brought to justice and any further sexual assaults prevented.
I'm surprised you can't see it.
By mentioning the alleged race of the attackers--apparently on the basis of their "appearance"--the media are inculcating the idea of a causal relation between their race and the crime. People will conclude that they attacked the women because they are North African.
And if you can't see why that's racist, you're beyond my help.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
No they won't.
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Starry Wisdom
no they're not. perhaps you should read the rest of the article too, which seemed to me to be quite fair.
Many people have already concluded precisely that. Take a look at ye internete.
not-bono-ever
meh
this + the Danish/Sweden shenghen spat + the rest of the northern european anti migrant rumours going around could force a change in positive opinion very very easily. Merkel will have s battle to sell the economic benefits line now...
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