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Idris2002 said:
In fairness, it's hard to make sense when an angry mob has ripped your body to pieces, and flung the resulting bits hither and yon.
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Actually now that I think about it, there are some striking socio-political convergences between Cambodia in 1975 and Greece in 2015.
 
Idris2002 said:
It's like a sickness with you, isn't it?
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But do you speak as the physician or the heir?

Seriously though, I was surprised to read that Tsipras' inner-circle are Althusserians. And I wonder what that means exactly?


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Spanky Longhorn said:
yep Syriza are not anti EU and Potami could help them implement some more moderate neo-liberal policies without taking the full blame from their more radical and naive supporters.

I have to wonder if a Syriza led government is more likely to see a split in Syriza than Pasok as they disappoint people to their left, right, and centre.
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This tbh, especially as Pasok had a similar history AFAIK. They will end up being forced to implement austerity. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't hold out much hope sadly :(
 
Looks like Syriza will need about 38% to get an outright majority now then. Tho it could go to as low as 36.5 - most likely just shy, anyway.
 
Not just shy pro-austerity voters, but also the Sex Pistols at the Hundred Club effect, loads of people claiming to support Syriza or the Yes campaign because it's cool but actually voting for a more liberal/safe option.
 
From the Guardian live blog -

"As the vote is still underway no one wants to go on the record - quite yet. But reports are being confirmed by analysts who put the difference at as much as 12 percentage points (38-26) - an outcome that would likely give Alexis Tsipras’ Syriza party an outright majority in Athens’ 300-seat House.


Greece’s incumbent prime minister Antonis Samaras is apparently hunkered down in his office with top cadres from his conservative New Democracy party. The mood in the New Democracy camp according to the Greek media “is anything but good.”
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Kaka Tim said:
results due at 8pm our time.

Im thinking that Syrizas poll lead might be shrunk by the "shy" pro-austerity voters - similar to how the "yes" vote was slightly over-represented in the polls for scottish independence.
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The Grauniad hinting at the the opposite: "Monitors representing Syriza in polling stations around Athens say they are very exited by unofficial exit polls that give the leftist a much bigger lead than thought..."

Mind you, they're quoting Syriza people.
 
As i said - the graun journo is warning agasint reading anything into the early exit polls. Poll close at 5 - and then we get a proper exit poll.
 
Kaka Tim said:
As i said - the graun journo is warning agasint reading anything into the early exit polls. Poll close at 5 - and then we get a proper exit poll.
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True enough. Can't help getting a little excited though - but we'll have to wait and see.

It's after midnight where I am already and I have work tomorrow, might wait up to see the results anyway...
 
its worth noting for those asking about a potential split in Pasok - Papandreou has already split it with the Democratic Socialist Movement, who did briefly poll higher than Pasok and are presenting themselves as being to their left.
 
Pasok will split even more now, no matter what the outcome of the election.

That leaked poll had thew parties that wont get enough to be elected to parliament on over 12% of the vote - meaning Syriza could win with just over 35%.
 
If the leaked exit polls are correct in giving Syriza a much greater lead than expected, I wonder how much that would be down to KKE voters switching at the last minute? The KKE's refusal to join a coalition with Syriza seems like cranky sectarian lunacy, in the midst of the excitement of a radical left party being favourite for election victory it must hard to throw away your vote by giving it to a party with no chance of winning and an unwillingness to cooperate with even their closest ideological cousins.
 
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