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Greek elections

Right,updated polls (i,e we now have the earlier ones with 100% of their returns) 1:

SYRIZA 36 – 38
ND 26 - 28
Golden Dawn 6 - 7
To Potami 6 - 7
KKE 5 - 6
PASOK 4.2 - 5.2
Independent Greeks 4 - 5
Kinima 2.2 - 3.2

Seat projection 148-154
 
That's probably what they were expecting to do in coalition. Now they've got a majority and they'll have to follow through with tax holidays and all sorts of promises on top of the proposed debt renegotiation.

There's loads of precedent for governments doing that, Mitterand's France and others. It would be great if they didn't do it but I'm not convinced it will happen. I haven't read the thread and I know very little about Greek politics, are there circumstances here which make it less likely? I know there is a huge anarchist movement in Greece but they don't really trust Syriza or are likely to be won over by them anyway.
 
I was wondering what the CIA is up to. They don't usually stand for this sort of thing. Taken their eyes off the ball, due to concern with the Ay-rabs?

Why would they be bothered? Almost no US interests are involved.

The German state security apparatus, of course, isn't what it was in happier times.
 
First official result - Athens 2st district results (2.3%): Syriza 37.7, ND 24.8, Potami 7.5, KKE 7.4, GDawn 5.6, ANEL 4.9, PASOK 3.5, KDS 2.1
 
The actual results are coming here (or the figures as they're counted for now) - you can click on the districts on the left - but there are a hell of a lot of them.
 
From Graunid livefeed

Philipp Missfelder, foreign policy spokesman the ruling CDU/CSU parliamentary group says there is a worry in Germany about a shift to populist movements in Europe that are “very bad for Europe and for the euro”.

“This kind of protest is not a surprise, people are unhappy about the austerity measures, not only in Greece but also in countries like Italy. But I think Syriza shouldn’t expect Germany to renegotiate with the programmes. They have to stick with what the former government has promised,” he said.

However, he said that if Greek politicians did want to negotiate, they would have to do so with the troika. “We are not in a position to negotiate,” he said, adding that Germany did not want to risk a “Grexit” and would try to avoid it.

While a lot of people in Germany are worried about the current development, he added: “Germans trust the government and they trust Angela Merkel and believe she has done the right thing...It was always crystal clear that without political reforms, it would always be complicated and there is a lot of homework to do for all of Europe, but the euro is one of the greatest achievements we’ve had in Germany.”

Nice democracy you've got there, EU/Germany
 
Why would they be bothered? Almost no US interests are involved.

Ah yes, I didn't think of that. They'd probably quite like to fuck the EU up actually.

The German state security apparatus, of course, isn't what it was in happier times.

They might think about reviving that tradition after this. Of course British intelligence were all over Greece at one time, but I suppose they went home a while back.
 
latest prediction has them on exactly 150 seats. With half of Golden Dawn's MP's being in jail, that'd be enough!
 
butchersapron do you think a coalition with the Independent Greeks or To Potami is more likely if Syriza do not cross the threshold?
Really don't know tbh. Just too much up in the air right now.

Btw Richard Seymour has called it as a definitive landlside already. The actual results coming through don't seem to be in line with the exit polls i'm afraid - the lead is around 5% rather than 12% with around 15% counted. Obv some areas have stronger votes for certain parties and are yet to finish counting. But what on earth is anyone doing declaring a landslide?
 
That's probably what they were expecting to do in coalition. Now they've got a majority and they'll have to follow through with tax holidays and all sorts of promises on top of the proposed debt renegotiation.
They will have too, they have been clearly elected to give the troika the finger,anything less and I think we will have serious unrest.
 
I hope files are being gathered on all commenters warning of impending economic crisis for Greece following a Syriza victory. All to be placed up against the wall CTR without exception.
 
Ah yes, I didn't think of that. They'd probably quite like to fuck the EU up actually.



They might think about reviving that tradition after this. Of course British intelligence were all over Greece at one time, but I suppose they went home a while back.

I wonder what Turkey thinks about it all. It's all quite matey now but there's an attractive opportunity to claim some of the Aegean while most of the Greek admirals are emptying their bank accounts and fleeing to Palmers Green.
 
I hope files are being gathered on all commenters warning of impending economic crisis for Greece following a Syriza victory. All to be placed up against the wall CTR without exception.

Why don't you give it ten years and see how it actually pans out for Greeks before you rush to judgement on economists?
 
Syriza lead over New Democracy may not quite as large as first predicted according to an update exit poll. It puts Syriza 10 points ahead of New Democracy.

From GU, as if this isn't an incredible thing in itself, we are discussing what is basically a far left party of ex communists, trots, maoists, social movements activists, etc, the above would be unthinkable here or other northern countries.
 
From GU, as if this isn't an incredible thing in itself, we are discussing what is basically a far left party of ex communists, trots, maoists, social movements activists, etc, the above would be unthinkable here or other northern countries.
The lead is 6% right now.
 
I wonder what Turkey thinks about it all.

They're loving it of course.

It's all quite matey now but there's an attractive opportunity to claim some of the Aegean while most of the Greek admirals are emptying their bank accounts and fleeing to Palmers Green.

It's hardly "matey," it will never be that, but neither side has any serious territorial designs on the other. No point, since they exchanged their populations long ago.
 
One of the positive things is that many of Syriza's cadres and leaders have already faced 'real' opposition in the form of the Colonels, etc, unlike our own emasculated far left like the prof, Callinicos.
 
Antarsya upping their vote from 0.49 to 0.59% according to the latest polls./ Well worth standing, clearly
 
So that shows over 35% for Syriza. You say it's a result, not a poll? What does "Affluenza" mean?

Affluenza means turn out of voters, percentage who voted. Yes it's a "live" result of votes so far counted.

Not convinced by the voting system with all those A4 sheets of paper one has to pick up, choose one, put it in an envelope, hand it to an official that seals and certifies it and finally place it in the box. Watch it here in action, you don't need to understand the language to see what's going on: http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/...ina-il-meccanismo-di-voto-greco/189857/188803
 
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