Greek elections
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The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
Subtle 
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
yeah appeasing these types has always worked well.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Maybe promote someone called Pinochet - that's what Allende did as well as the other perks to keep them onside.
Papadopoulos FFS, thought you were a history obsessive among other things.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Right, so Syriza have just lead a military coup and established a Junta. Great comparison.
are we taking bets on how long before the Hollandeisation of Zippy?
Take the meds.
Mr Papadopoulos did promote Dot Cotton, perhaps that's where you're getting mixed up.
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Not bad no and certainly a lot more realistic on the dangers of a deal with ANEL than butchers was earlier today. And makes the obvious point that this deal was planned. Hence the language in Tsipras speech last night about a government 'for all Greeks', the very brief chat before the deal this morning etc.
Doesn't though address the question of whether they actually needed to do a deal with anyone rather than attempting to rule on their own.
ska invita
back on the other side
KKE "insane"...KKE certainly playing the loooooooooong game...
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Not possible under Greek rules, apparently - they need to be elected with at least 151 votes to have a government. Or so I am told
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Why don't they just break the constitution and rule as a minority govt? Not a great excuse.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
who backs the constitution? and how would it look to the people t go tearing up the rulebook.
That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Congratulations.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
i dont think they possess enough tanks
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
How would it look to the Greek people if they ignored a rule that says they need 2 more MP's to govern?
What concessions have been made to the Independent Greeks to avoid breaking that rule?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Go and unite your right fist with your left bollock you daft twat.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the greek right and wider european right would be screaming dictatorship, this isn't Game of Thrones
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
"the Syriza leadership underestimates the sources of reaction in Greek society. Tsipras has said that he thinks anti-immigrant feeling is not caused by racism but displaced despair over austerity, thus implying that reversing austerity alone would be sufficient to undercut its bases. This is what opportunism means - putting immediate tactical advantage ahead of long-term strategic issues. And this won't be the only manifestation of that."
I have no idea what this means from SEYMOUR! - can anyone translate?
ska invita
back on the other side
as an aside its interesting how the world hasnt ended yet and stockmarkets havent collapsed etc...the response from the institutions so far seems relatively muted
do you do that when ever you hear the name Seymour too?
Simpsons have jinxed the name for life with me
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
That's not what I'm suggesting.
Would they? And how credible would it be?
I'm not trying to argue they've crossed a line or broken some sort of sacred principle here, just wondering why it's absolutely neccessary for them to have a partner. No one else can form a government. What's to stop them arguing that the best reflection of the democratic will would be a minority govt, and seek cross party support on a bill by bill basis as they're clearly doing anyway?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Greeks are genetically racist and that thinking that racism has material sources then attempting to deal with those material sources is wrong and only of immediate tactical advantage - opportunism. Long term strategy seems to involves some sort of more final solution to the greek problem.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
probs waiting to see where syriza go wrt debt etc.
Would be premature to start capital strik and punishments before they'v seen if they are 'guys we can work with'
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
The closest I can get to the reasoning is that using racism as an excuse for tackling austerity and poverty instead of focusing on calling people racist is the very definition of opportunism.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
that you actually have to oppose racism to end racism, just relating to the material causes is not enough. It's not really a very good definition of opportunism tho
