Yes but they were the largest party - just like Syriza and unlike them in coalition with the moderate centre left rather than the far right.
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Yes but they were the largest party - just like Syriza and unlike them in coalition with the moderate centre left rather than the far right.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Tbf they said in a european democracy - which still leaves out the spanish and french popular fronts, mitterand in '81, even PASOK in the same year...
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
Analysis of the vote & the consequences of coalition by Syriza central committee member Stathis Kouvelakis in Jacobin magazine - he doesn't sound especially optimistic.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Actually thinking about it - could we compare it with the Soares government in Portugal in '76, didn't he have to form a coalition with a far right party?
ska invita
back on the other side
Yanis Varoufakis confirmed as finance minister...didnt see it mentioned here
http://www.theguardian.com/business...ile-yannis-varoufakis-greece-finance-minister
http://www.theguardian.com/business...ile-yannis-varoufakis-greece-finance-minister
ska invita
back on the other side
why?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
the possible resurgence of Marxism. Callinicos is a mate of (Syriza MP) Costas Lapavistas, and Bookmarks is easy to get to
ska invita
back on the other side
might have to crank the whatnot and have a watch of newsnight for old times sake...nice to see some pictures today 
coley
Well-Known Member
Swift camera shift to highgate cemetery, look at Greece,the Marxists are coming
Et ask
Is it just me,or does the new reporter on NN have a definite likeness to 'lonesome George' ?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
coley
Well-Known Member
Whoa, do you have a reputable link for that?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Fez909
toilet expert
Weirdly, I was reading about WW2 reparations today. Apparently under the terms of the peace treaties, monetary reparations were not allowed.
Britain and other countries took German citizens as slaves instead, and the Netherlands annexed German land and sold it back to them.
This looks like it should be countered as separate from reparations, though?
Britain and other countries took German citizens as slaves instead, and the Netherlands annexed German land and sold it back to them.
This looks like it should be countered as separate from reparations, though?
coley
Well-Known Member
So, seventy years is considered a reasonable ' cut off point'?
Not in my book, western civilisation was awaking to the horrors it was inflicting and had been for many years
Buggrit, time fer kip.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
kip? sleep or ukip?
coley
Well-Known Member
Around here? Sleep,
The Communist Party were elected and held power in West Bengal, 1977-2011. Right bunch of Stalinists they were too, down to the leader's personality cult, and not averse to getting the cadres to beat up or disappear anyone awkward.
But that was weird, since they were actually the Rightist party. The Leftists were Maoist/Naxalite. Further evidence of etc.....
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I just watched Newsnight on the bbc iplayer. It left me feeling optimistic about Greece. I wish them well and also that we had an equivalent of Syriza but with no need to form an alliance with anyone.
Interestingly the EU power block is looking to ease things a bit on the austerity front. Perhaps they know that they have gone too far now. The money people at the back of the politicos are perhaps worrying that the Golden Goose is at risk.
Interestingly the EU power block is looking to ease things a bit on the austerity front. Perhaps they know that they have gone too far now. The money people at the back of the politicos are perhaps worrying that the Golden Goose is at risk.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
There is also the small issue of the academic paper this whole nonsense was based on having been found to have had a major error in the spread sheet that resulted in it coming out with something like 0.2% GDP growth rather than 2.2%, and another paper's demonstrated that growth is actually higher in the 5 years after debt hits 90% GDP than in the 5 years before it from the same data I think, so pre austerity data. Would probably look a lot different after austerity.
Their entire policy was based on complete bullshit by 2 professors who proved incapable of either using a spreadsheet, or being able to sanity check their results to make sure they made sense, probably due to the false results meeting with their wrong ideology.
Their entire policy was based on complete bullshit by 2 professors who proved incapable of either using a spreadsheet, or being able to sanity check their results to make sure they made sense, probably due to the false results meeting with their wrong ideology.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
fucking nuts really, Greece had been running at around the same debt to GDP ratio since the late 1980s, yet along comes some academic bullshit that says debt to GDP ratios above 90% would result in virtual stagnation of the economy and all that 20 year Greek evidence to the contrary (including a decade solid of above 3% growth rates) was ignored and suddenly that level of debt was completely untenable, the markets took fright, and the EU jumped in and killed their economy.
I have read the article in the link. I am suspicious that the politicians were only too happy to follow the conclusions of the false figures produced by the so called economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff because it suited their purposes in producing cut-backs. These cut-backs enabled the politicians to reduce spending on the public sector in particular because they wanted to tip the balance of European economies towards the private sector. This desire for privatization was purely political and idealogical.
I never believe the figures produced by economists especially in forecasting the future, because I don't think economics is a science. It may have the trappings of a science in the form of charts, diagrams and spreadsheets but it is purely political propaganda.
I never believe the figures produced by economists especially in forecasting the future, because I don't think economics is a science. It may have the trappings of a science in the form of charts, diagrams and spreadsheets but it is purely political propaganda.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
What Greece needs is unity and no more internal power struggle. My friend Martha say "We need to come together to overcome this little trouble". 
I'm booking Kos again for August.
I'm booking Kos again for August.
Athos
Well-Known Member
You're friends with Bob Marley?What Greece needs is unity and no more internal power struggle. My friend Martha say "We need to come together to overcome this little trouble".
I'm booking Kos again for August.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Who Martha? No she studied sculpture at saint Martins college
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The Communist Party were elected and held power in West Bengal, 1977-2011. Right bunch of Stalinists they were too, down to the leader's personality cult, and not averse to getting the cadres to beat up or disappear anyone awkward.
But that was weird, since they were actually the Rightist party. The Leftists were Maoist/Naxalite. Further evidence of etc.....
Not a European country, or indeed a country at all
