General Coronavirus (COVID-19) chat

[MrCurry]

A rough estimate that we will all catch covid approximately every 9 years. Lots of provisos on the estimation. Oh joy!

That’s cheerful, isn’t it? 20k cases per day in U.K. at any one time, continuously forever. 7,000 deaths per year. Presumably much worse numbers in poorer countries with bad nutrition, healthcare and lower vaccination rates.

 

[elbows]

Its one of the reasons I say that increasing the capacity of the health system is a significant aspect of the real & long term version of 'learning to live with Covid'.

 

[Badgers]

That clears it all up then

 

[two sheds]

Sanctimonious fucking way he thanks the health workers while giving reproving looks to condemn bradshaw for not having done the same

Mealy mouthed cunt.

 

[Badgers]

Professor Martin Marshall, head of the Royal College of GPs, says the vaccination situation in the UK is "concerning" as immunity from last winter's vaccoine rollout wanes.

"We know that immunity is waning. Six months after you receive the second vaccination we know that immunity is - in some cases - considerably less, it will be different for different people," he told BBC Radio 4's World at One.

Out of the eight million people eligible to get the booster dose at the moment, 3.8 million people have received the jab.

In light of this, he says "the booster vaccination is incredibly important in order to protect individual patients” and “to protect the NHS during a winter that we expect to be really difficult, not just with Covid but with flu and other infections as well".

Prof Marshall says GP surgeries should not go back to administering the bulk of vaccinations as they "simply don't have the capacity to do that”.

However, he adds, "there needs to be much stronger messaging from the centre about the importance of the booster vaccination, and much clearer messaging about where to get it and how to get it"

BBC ^

 

[dtb]

So are the injections working or not?

 

[Sue]

So are the injections working or not?

Yes.

 

[Supine]

So are the injections working or not?

No. Fake news.

 

[two sheds]

Results are being invented by Big Pharma. The millions of doctors, nurses, researchers worldwide are all in on it for the money

 

[Badgers]

Sajid Javid news conference delayed by 10 minutes

#worldbeating

 

[Badgers]

Fuck's sake.

As if that will change anything. There is almost zero trust in this disgraced government.

Get Covid jab or restrictions more likely, Sajid Javid says

Additional measures are not needed in England at this point, the health secretary says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[dtb]

Yes.

But cases and deaths are going up supposedly. Why is this?

 

[Supine]

But cases and deaths are going up supposedly. Why is this?

You absolute nugget. Deaths are proportionally much higher in the unvaccinated. All research shows vaccination is significantly safer than natural infection. What is your opinion? Do you wonder why your opinion is at odds with the thousands of people who specialise in understanding the subject matter?

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

So are the injections working or not?

heroin injections have no effects on the pandemic

 

[cupid_stunt]

But cases and deaths are going up supposedly. Why is this?

We, fuck me, the vaccines are working.

And, the vaccinated tend to have shorter hospital stays, and a lot less die, because their cases are not so severe.

The top three slides via the link below show the total numbers of hospital admissions & deaths are much lower than when we previously had similar levels of cases.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027289/2021-10-20_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides_FOR_PUBLICATION.pdf

 

[cupid_stunt]

I know two sheds was being ironic with this post, and two people liked it for that reason, but the third?

 

[Badgers]

I know two sheds was being ironic with this post, and two people liked it for that reason, but the third?

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Me?

 

[Supine]

I know two sheds was being ironic with this post, and two people liked it for that reason, but the third?

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The thing that annoys me is that I work in big pharma, I just spent a year working on starting up a vaccine manufacturing process and I DIDN’T SEE A PENNY OF THIS HUSH MONEY!!!

 

[Badgers]

People testing positive once are only counted once, when they first test positive, yes. Despite the likes of Peston complaining about this months ago, I dont think they have changed it. A weekly report does show some indication of number of probably reinfections, but its relatively feeble data.

You might have seen my post on the schools thread. Two colleagues so far this week have + tests. One is triple jabbed, had Covid before and is really unwell.

New delta? Fuck knows

 

[dtb]

You absolute nugget. Deaths are proportionally much higher in the unvaccinated. All research shows vaccination is significantly safer than natural infection. What is your opinion? Do you wonder why your opinion is at odds with the thousands of people who specialise in understanding the subject matter?

But the majority of people are now jabbed.
All research does not show injection is safer than natural infection for everyone. In fact, obtaining natural immunity is a much stronger defence for different strains of the virus.

• survivors of the 1918 Flu epidemic were tested for their immunity to the 1918 influenza virus 90 years after, and still demonstrated immunity;
• people recovered from the 2003 SARS infection demonstrated robust T-Cell responses seventeen years later;
• the wide-spread prevalence of high cross-immunity – gained from past common cold infections – further demonstrates the resilience of natural immunity for coronaviruses.

Robust SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity is maintained at 6 months following primary infection - Nature Immunology

The contribution of T cells to the SARS-CoV-2 response remains an important and unresolved question. Moss and colleagues examine T cell and antibody kinetics in a large cohort of patients with COVID-19 and find robust and durable T cell responses.

www.nature.com

A long-term perspective on immunity to COVID

Clinical evidence for long-lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 infection

www.nature.com

Should people who have recovered from COVID take a vaccine?- PANDA

A deep dive into the issue of natural immunity and Covid-19 vaccination. It provides evidence of natural immunity and is impeccably researched.

www.pandata.org

 

[dtb]

You might have seen my post on the schools thread. Two colleagues so far this week have + tests. One is triple jabbed, had Covid before and is really unwell.

New delta? Fuck knows

And you still think the injections work?

 

[Chilli.s]

And you still think the injections work?

Well hospitals are reporting far far higher death rates in non vaccinated patients

 

[cupid_stunt]

And you still think the injections work?

Yes, for most people, see the graph I've post above, dumb arse.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Yes, for most people, see the graph I've post above, dumb arse.

Yeah, but you can prove anything with facts.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I appears dtb stands for 'dumb thick bastard'.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I thought about it but then decided not to bother.

 

[Supine]

But the majority of people are now jabbed.
All research does not show injection is safer than natural infection for everyone. In fact, obtaining natural immunity is a much stronger defence for different strains of the virus.

• survivors of the 1918 Flu epidemic were tested for their immunity to the 1918 influenza virus 90 years after, and still demonstrated immunity;
• people recovered from the 2003 SARS infection demonstrated robust T-Cell responses seventeen years later;
• the wide-spread prevalence of high cross-immunity – gained from past common cold infections – further demonstrates the resilience of natural immunity for coronaviruses.

Robust SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity is maintained at 6 months following primary infection - Nature Immunology

The contribution of T cells to the SARS-CoV-2 response remains an important and unresolved question. Moss and colleagues examine T cell and antibody kinetics in a large cohort of patients with COVID-19 and find robust and durable T cell responses.

www.nature.com

A long-term perspective on immunity to COVID

Clinical evidence for long-lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 infection

www.nature.com

Should people who have recovered from COVID take a vaccine?- PANDA

A deep dive into the issue of natural immunity and Covid-19 vaccination. It provides evidence of natural immunity and is impeccably researched.

www.pandata.org

Good post. Although none of what you posted supports what you are saying. Did you skip a few classes at school?

 

[Teaboy]

Yeah, but you can prove anything with facts.

And due to the wonder of the internet we can cross reference scientific facts with what some bloke who knows Nikki Minaj's cousin reckons.

Science and the internet working in tandem. What a time to be alive.

 

[dtb]

Well hospitals are reporting far far higher death rates in non vaccinated patients

Increases in COVID‑19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplifed, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.

Wayback Machine

 

[existentialist]

So are the injections working or not?

It's not a binary choice. Which should be perfectly evident to anyone who's getting their information from places other than Youtube loonspuds and Facebook knuckleheads.