Gaza under attack yet again.

[teqniq]

@Astro_Alex: My saddest photo yet. From #ISS we can actually see explosions and rockets flying over #Gaza & #Israel

 

[hipipol]

No, I don't know. Is it your personal interpretation of the Quran?

read it first
After you have a real opinion, lets talk

 

[hipipol]

Think the honourable Urbanite is trying to explain that they're half cut and talking shite.

him or me?

 

[SpackleFrog]

read it first
After you have a real opinion, lets talk

Go to bed and sleep it off first, then lets talk.

PS if sleeping it off doesn't work, then feel free to not talk.

 

[SpackleFrog]

him or me?

You you muppet.

 

[hipipol]

You you muppet.

do tell your mum how much you love being allowed up late
If you is well lucky she'll let you take the nappy off when you go to bed
Good luck

 

[quiquaquo]

read it first
After you have a real opinion, lets talk

You talk like that in Ramadan? Have you no shame?

 

[thriller]

wtf is that mabo abbas doing? take the Zionist state to the international court you stupid senile fuck. You aint ever gonna get your state, so fuck it and go another route.

 

[hipipol]

You talk like that in Ramadan? Have you no shame?

The Holy Quran : Chapter 97: Al-Qadr القَدر
[97:6] It is all peace till the rising of the dawn.

safe for a bit mate

 

[Edward Kelly]

frogwoman

I can't stop thinking about these groups of british people going off to fight for Israel. it worries me that I may have met people who might have done this, or know people who have. it's really upsetting me

I know 3
2 I am still in vague contact with.......
Suspect if I voice any opinion that is real when I see them next, it may be reduced to none

I know a guy in the US who proudly tells all who will listen how he was a sniper when he did his time with the IDF (I've got a feeling he just did his voluntary service and spent a bit of time in a tower, then went home to the US) nevertheless, I could hardly believe he thought this as something to brag about.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Anyone hear this discussed on the'moral maze'.

 

[weltweit]

Probe Launched Into 'Israel War Crimes In Gaza'
http://news.sky.com/story/1306015/probe-launched-into-israel-war-crimes-in-gaza

An international inquiry into Israel's actions in Gaza has been launched, after the UN's Human Rights Commissioner said there was a "strong possibility" the country was guilty of war crimes.

The 46-member Human Rights Council backed a Palestinian-drafted resolution to begin the investigation by 29 votes, with Arab and fellow Muslim countries joined by China, Russia and Latin American and African nations.

The United States was the only member to vote against, while European countries - including the UK - abstained.

So the USA voted against and the UK abstained!! The US and UK won't even vote for a probe!

Also reported here:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/23/israel-may-have-committed-war-crimes-in-gaza-un

 

[weltweit]

Anyone hear this discussed on the'moral maze'.

I posted some links about it if you check back..

 

[Awesome Wells]

I posted some links about it if you check back..

Was Honderich invited on to make the pro Palestine position look suspect?

 

[weltweit]

Was Honderich invited on to make the pro Palestine position look suspect?

Well he certainly wasn't given much opportunity to state his case, Mad Mel etc saw to that.

 

[weltweit]

Hamas says Gaza blockade must end before ceasefire
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28451691

The leader of Islamic militant group Hamas has said there can be no ceasefire to ease the conflict in Gaza without an end to Israel's blockade.

Khaled Meshaal said Hamas would continue to reject a lasting ceasefire until its conditions were met.
It follows further Israeli air strikes and ground operations in Gaza, as Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel.
...

 

[norwood]

I wonder if the irish americans,sean hannity and bill oreilly of fox news supported the IRA as freedom fighters against british tyranny.Obviously, at the moment they are down on there knees supporting israels right to kill as many as they see fit.What would they have said if britain slaughtered over 700 of their catholic mainly civilian brethren in 2 weeks?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Good morning!

@AJELive: 23 people have been killed in #Gaza this morning, raising the number of Palestinians killed in Israeli assault to 723 http://t.co/oVplPwKFNX

 

[TomUS]

Good morning!

This killing isn't for the sake of Israel. It's for the politicians now in power in Israel. The hard right maintains it's power through non-stop war.......'we'll protect you'.....kind of Orwellian.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Well he certainly wasn't given much opportunity to state his case, Mad Mel etc saw to that.

Quite, so all the average listener would have heard was someone saying they support hamas and no explanation.

I would have liked to hear more of his position and less straw manning from Phillips.

 

[Idris2002]

I wonder if the irish americans,sean hannity and bill oreilly of fox news supported the IRA as freedom fighters against british tyranny.Obviously, at the moment they are down on there knees supporting israels right to kill as many as they see fit.What would they have said if britain slaughtered over 700 of their catholic mainly civilian brethren in 2 weeks?

In fairness, they probably didn't. You'd get hardcore 'ra supporters in some of the traditional working class Irish areas of New York and Boston, but it's not that big a deal in Irish-America as a whole.

 

[quiquaquo]

This killing isn't for the sake of Israel. It's for the politicians now in power in Israel. The hard right maintains it's power through non-stop war.......'we'll protect you'.....kind of Orwellian.

No. Israel is one of the few and perhaps only country that has 100% pure proportional representation. Israeli's get what they voted for albeit obviously in coalition. This genocide is, like it or not, backed by a majority of the population.

 

[quiquaquo]

"Gaza, the destruction in the eyes of the Palestinians" (photos): http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/201...si_il_fotoreportage-92266987/1/?ref=HRER3-1#1

 

[weltweit]

Quite, so all the average listener would have heard was someone saying they support hamas and no explanation.
I would have liked to hear more of his position and less straw manning from Phillips.

More info at the links below:

Moral Maze - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b1v8q
Presented by Michael Buerk. Panellists: Matthew Taylor, Melanie Phillips, Giles Fraser and Jill Kirby. Witnesses: Colonel Richard Kemp, Mehdi Hasan, Dr Hugo Slim and Ted Honderich.

Of the witnesses Ted Honderich [1] supported Hamas, much to Phillips's ire, he didn't get enough time to explain himself though. Kemp and Slim were middle of the road and Hasan was pro Palestinian (and well argued) but against Hamas.

[1] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~uctytho/
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Honderich

 

[quiquaquo]

BTW, today Peres is replaced by the hardliner Rivlin today as President of Israel. (not to say Peres wasn't a total bastard of course)

 

[frogwoman]

No. Israel is one of the few and perhaps only country that has 100% pure proportional representation. Israeli's get what they voted for albeit obviously in coalition. This genocide is, like it or not, backed by a majority of the population.

what's the turnout like in Israeli elections?

 

[quiquaquo]

(Majority of the voters of course)

No idea but the polls look like another far right win: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Israeli_legislative_election

 

[frogwoman]

going to see a Palestinian mate of mine this evening, not seen him since I was a PSC member.

 

[frogwoman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_the_New_Testament

Jesus! (no pun intended)

 

[Awesome Wells]

So according to the ranting old bitch, philips, palestinian children are terrorists, as they are among the dead, whom she calls terrorists.