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Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster

Wel thos sorts of stories are a bit harder to completely dismiss than the ones about the status of the plant. There is contamination in Tokyo, and there is not a huge amount of consensus about what levels of radiation will cause real problems for people.

Your description of what it says doesn't match though, its talking about Tokyo not Fukushima, and the levels they say they measured are only a little above the 50 mSv/year limit imposed on the evacuation zone, not 25 times those levels. The 25x is something else. See the original blog article they link to rather than the hysterical veteran-focussed gibberings of the post you linked to.
 
No worries. I will take the opportunity to say that personally if Id been living in Tokyo I would probably have tried to move away if it was feasible, especially if I had kids. But its not like I would have been afraid of imminent death, and giving up smoking should be a higher priority if I cared that much about my health. Food contamination is another issue that would have done my head in if I lived in Japan.
 
Yeah, my paranoid loonacy aside, I'd be getting the fuck out of Tokyo if I lived there. (after giving up smoking) :D
 
The no-fly zone radius apparently got reduced recently so more helicopter footage has been shot in recent days. In this video, towards the end you can see humans working inside the reactor 4 building.

 
I'm back there next month. Apparently they have had a few big tremors that might not normally worry people, but with March 11th coming up, it brings on a greater shade of worry.
 
I'm back there next month. Apparently they have had a few big tremors that might not normally worry people, but with March 11th coming up, it brings on a greater shade of worry.
the tremors haven't really stopped. There have been a few 4+ even 5+'s eachweek since the big one. But then, it's in a very active zone anway, so this is probably completly normal. Just try and put it to the back of your mind, you'll be fine :)
 
the tremors haven't really stopped. There have been a few 4+ even 5+'s eachweek since the big one. But then, it's in a very active zone anway, so this is probably completly normal. Just try and put it to the back of your mind, you'll be fine :)

Japan's 2011 megaquake reactivated dormant faults

24 February 2012

The megaquake that shook the east coast of Japan in March 2011 reactivated dormant faults near Fukushima's beleaguered nuclear reactors, geologists warn.
"A strong quake may occur in the Futaba fault, only 5 to 6 kilometres away," says Dapeng Zhao of Tohoku University. The fault runs parallel to the coast, right past both of Fukushima's nuclear plants.
 
As the anniversary looms there is quite a lot of press attention at the moment. Politicians are also taking the opportunity to try to draw a line under it so they can carry on with nuclear, which often involves having to admit some mistakes:

“The government, operator and the academic world were all too steeped in a safety myth,” Mr. Noda said in an interview with journalists from overseas news media organizations. “Everybody must share the pain of responsibility.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/w...ment-shares-blame-for-fukushima-disaster.html

The SPEEDI system which was supposed to keep the public informed also continues to cause embarrassment. Every once in a while some new detail emerges in the story of how they covered up some of the early release estimates, this being the latest. Sadly its no surprise that such systems only serve their masters well when nothing is going wrong with a nuclear facility, and the nice happy data can add to the nice friendly nuclear PR picture.

SPEEDI simulation "cannot be made public", according to a document by Ministry of Education and Science

 東京電力福島第1原発事故5日目の昨年3月15日、緊急時迅速放射能影響予測ネットワークシステム(SPEEDI)による放射性物質の拡散予測について、当時の高木義明文部科学相ら政務三役や文科省幹部が協議し「一般にはとても公表できない内容と判断」と記した内部文書が作成されていたことが2日、同省関係者への取材で分かった。

It was revealed on March 2 by speaking with the people involved at the Ministry of Education and Science that an internal memo was created on March 15, 2011, 5th day of the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant accident, which shows then-Minister Yoshiaki Takagi and top officials at the Ministry of Education and Science held a meeting that day and agreed that they "cannot make the SPEEDI simulation results public".

 文科省は「事務方が作ったメモだが不正確。公表の具体的な判断はしなかった」と内容を一部否定している。

The Ministry of Education denies part of the story, saying "The memo was created by the secretariat but it is inaccurate. There was no clear decision on whether to make them public."

 事故直後のSPEEDIの試算公表をめぐる文科省の議事録などは公表されていなかった。

No minutes of the Ministry of Education's meetings have been made public over the SPEEDI results right after the accident.

(taken from the sometimes shrill but still useful blog at http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/ )
 
What I find bemusing about some of the comments from people living right next to Dungeness power station in this article, is not so much their appreciation that the risk of something going wrong is pretty low, but that they think they live so close to the plant that if something really terribly bad happened to the reactor, they would be instant toast. Fukushima was a pretty good demo of this not being the case, under the sorts of nuclear reactor disasters that we can come up with, you don't have a nuclear explosion. Under some horror scenarios local residents could get a dose that could kill them in a relatively short space of time, but not so quickly that they wouldn't know what happened like some of these residents imagine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/mar/09/love-living-next-nuclear-plant
 
Under some horror scenarios local residents could get a dose that could kill them in a relatively short space of time, but not so quickly that they wouldn't know what happened like some of these residents imagine.

Three hours to three weeks, the last half in each case bleeding from every orifice :(
 
Three hours to three weeks, the last half in each case bleeding from every orifice :(

Although to be fair one think Fukushima has demonstrated is that you can have a big disaster with resulting contamination to large areas of land, without anyone at or near the plant actually dying relatively rapidly from acute radiation exposure. The other things it demonstrates is that the timescale for the nuclear disaster often involves many hours warning, and thus the potential for evacuation.

The dramatic explosions were the biggest nightmare for those interested in nuclear PR, but the real story here has more to do with the unseen, such as the large release from reactor 2 (whose building didn't explode), the direct of the wind (very poorly covered by the media at the time), the long term psychological, economic and potential health damage, the no-go areas.

This article makes for a reasonable update as to the situation with food contamination in Japan. Its not from a hysterical source but its still rather depressing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print...decades-of-tainted-crops-as-fears-linger.html

For example its hard not to laugh in horror when reading about a supermarkets 'goal' to supply cesium-free food.

Retailers such as Aeon Co. (8267) are safeguarding food against radioactive contamination, Sato at Greenpeace said. Aeon, Japan’s biggest supermarket chain, strengthened testing in November with a goal of selling cesium-free food only.
 
In terms of news from the plant itself that I haven't bothered to mention here recently, there have been various bits and bobs, but probably the most significant was a preliminary survey down in the torus room basements of reactors 2 & 3. This is where the suppression chamber lives and the room and the stairs leading to it are partially filled with the highly contaminated water. They didn't hang around there long and the photos aren't very good quality, but they did get a picture of part of the reactor 2 suppression chamber. It wasn't totally mangled which has caused them to further step away from the idea that an explosive event happened in this area om March 15th 2012. However at reactor 3 the door was damaged and they could not get in, so it may yet turn out that there was more going on with the suppression chamber or torus room of reactor 3 than reactor 2.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120314_01-e.pdf

It also means that attention has occasionally turned again as to why radioactive release for reactor 2 has been estimated to be so much higher than the other reactors, despite lack of explosion of the building. People used to think it was something to do with the suppression chamber explosion, but as that explosion seems less likely we must search for other answers. My tentative conclusion at this stage is that it was because they failed to wet vent reactor 2 containment. At reactors 1 & 3 they managed to vent much of the contents of containment out through the emissions stacks, which releases radioactive material into the environment but at least some of the substances get scrubbed by the water in the suppression chamber, and will remain in that water rather than getting out into the air. But at reactor 2 they did not manage to perform this operation. They may have managed a very brief dry vent (just a few minutes) which doesn't go via the suppression chamber and so doesn't get scrubbed, but in any case hours later the containment failed and it is quite likely that lots of stuff came out directly from the drywell containment to the upper part of the building and then the air. You'd think this detail might feature heavily in any discussion of the disaster but for some reason it lurks, not exactly off the radar, but not in the limelight either. I've not been overwhelmed by the depth of journalism about Fukushima, so I will be interested to see whether these possibilities find much of a place in Fukushima history over the longterm.

Anyway regardless of what actually happened at reactor 2, we know that the day it got real bad at that reactor was the day that the worst land contamination occurred. It was real bad timing because just as the emission on site rose dramatically, the weather changed late on the 14th/early on the 15th and wind took stuff south, and then shifted clockwise over the next hours. By the time the wind was taking stuff to the north-west of the plant, there was rain or snow which caused a lot of the contamination in this area, in the same way that the parts of England most affected by Chernobyl were caused by the timing & location of wind & rain. Tokyo got some contamination on this date, but apparently they were very lucky because the rain didn't quite make it to Tokyo then, which would have deposited far more long-lasting radioactive nasties and caused a far worse situation for humans. Tokyo did get hit again days later on the 20th/21st and I don't know if they were lucky with the rain that time, but at least it was not happening on the date of peak emissions from the plant.

Now its also possible that these weather phenomenon have enabled them to underestimate the releases on other days and from other reactors, because for much of the disaster the wind was blowing stuff out to sea, and so there is far less data. But either way its the events of the 15th March 2011 which had the biggest impact on land contamination in Japan, the bulk of the contamination, regardless of the detail of which reactor it came from that I get interested in.

Anyway probably not too many more detailed posts from me from now on, the above is my area of special interest and thats pretty much all I've got to say about it until some unknown future date when we learn something concrete about the state of the reactors. Any day now they will have another go at sticking an endoscope into reactor 2 containment, a longer one this time so they can try to discover the level of water at the bottom of containment (if any), since last time the water was not at the higher level they expected. But I will be surprised if this stuff gives us many more clues as to what happened.
 
Oh and if you'd prefer the picture rather than the words, someone on another forum noticed that this picture, which was published last April as part of a brief TEPCO report on damage caused by the tsunami itself, had a timestamp that suggests it was taken on the morning of the 15th March 2011. If the timestamp is accurate then this a time when the measured pressure in reactor 2 containment was falling after things had gone very wrong there in the previous 13 hours, where all but the 'fukushima 50' had been temporarily evacuated from the site, and a little before the very peak of emissions from the entire nuclear disaster were estimated to have occurred.​
 
Sorry about that! The chances of some new horror unfolding are pretty low now I would think. I'll probably bump the thread at least once more as they are doing the new borescope mission to look inside reactor 2 containment today.
 
I think some anxiety about such things is well understandable, not daft. Personally food contamination would be the issue that played on my nerves if I visited Japan at this time.

Anyways the borescope mission to look inside reactor 2 is done, and results published:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120326_07-e.pdf

When they looked in January they thought the water level would be around the grate, but they couldn't see it. So this time they used a longer borescope which revealed that its actually quite a number of metres lower than that.
 
Found a video version of the recent drill. The fire fighting stuff looks even sillier on video, and near the start of the video they have everyone hide under their desks. Someone fails at this task and bobs up and down in an uncertain manner.

120326_02j.zip
 
Results of the radiation level measurement inside reactor 2 containment vessel are now available:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120327_02-j.pdf

72.9 Sv/h was the highest reading they got, and this was still some way away from the reactor vessel and the water at the bottom of containment.

Very big numbers that are way higher than the level needed to cause immediate devastating health impact. But this is to be expected, and shows why its a very good thing the containment didn't completely explode.

To say it will be a challenge to ever be able to clear this mess up is something of an understatement.

Please note that these figures have nothing to do with health affects for the population or even the workers on site, unless they went mad and decided to walk around inside containment, which is not going to happen.
 
Oh well at least its given the kids something new to study :

http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/03/...tudents-search-for-hotspot-around-the-school/


On 2/14/2012, the students of the fifth grade in Hayama elementary school (10 years old) measured radiation around the school building by using the dosemeter given by MEXT. It was the class of environment education, to study radiation. As the result, a student found out the hotspot of 0.8μSv/h in gutter of the rooftop of the building.
At 16:00, the principal reported it to board of education. 0.7~0.8μSv/h was measured in the second check. Soil and dead leaves were removed.
After the decontamination, it went down to 0.04~0.05μSv/h. The removed soil and dead leaves were put into double plastic bags and beried 1m underground.
All the public schools and nursery schools will measure radiation level around gutter etc from now. In case they find hotspot, it shall be decontaminated.


(that site I link to is sometimes hysterical and sloppy with facts, but these sorts of sources can still act as an interesting news aggregation & translation service)
On the one hand I have been a bit disturbed about the numerous reports of ordinary people & kids being involved in decontamination work. On the other hand much of the damage that has ben caused is psychological, and the technique of getting people involved in some way, so they do not feel 100% helpless, has at least a grain of sense to it.
 
They took some contaminated water from the nuclear plant to the other plant that is 10km south for analysis, and managed to leak some onto corridors and desks at the other site :facepalm: This will count as a separate nuclear incident which I believe has received a provisional 1 rating on the INES scale (the main Fukushima disaster and Chernobyl being a 7 rating).

They had another leak from water decontamination systems, and some of it went into the sea.

Couple this with the news on how low the water level was in reactor 2 and its not been a terribly good week for their PR.
 
Im not posting much here now as I prefer conversation tome talking to myself, but here are a couple of the most interesting developments since I last posted.

They stuck a camera in reactor 3 pool and found a lot of debris in there, including bits of the fuel handling machine that used to sit above the pool.

They have started the next phase of dealing with reactor 4 pool, which will involve building a new structure that will support a device for eventually removing the fuel for the pool.

They sent a new robot inside the torus room of reactor 2 to look for damage. Nothing very noteworthy seems to have been discovered as a result of this, the torus room is in relatively good shape.

Today they published some very interesting stuff about one of the equipment maintenance hatches at reactor 3. This hatch is like a giant plug that normally forms part of the containment wall, but can be opened to bring new equipment into containment using times of maintenance. Back in November this area received some attention because rails on the floor that help to open this hatch were quite highly contaminated. Well now they have see fit to tell us that there is a gap between the wall and this plug, a gap that should not be there. They stuck a camera down the gap and found some water, suggesting this is a leak point.I wait for more expert analysis on this because front he diagrams they have used it looks like the outer plug has been seriously displaced.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120419_03-e.pdf

(and previous November study of the rail contamination http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_111122_02-e.pdf )
 
Every once in a while a food or health story comes along that causes me to renew the deep face palm I feel in regard to how this stuff is being handled in Japan. The latest one:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/now-they-tell-us-wholesaler-in-tokyo.html

In September last year, intermediate wholesaler of vegetables "Daikane Bunki" in Adachi-ku, Tokyo sold 358 boxes of cucumbers made in Fukushima to retailers to be sold to the consumers. The company, when they packaged the cucumbers in small bags, put the "made in Yamagata" and "made in Iwate" stickers. The Tokyo metropolitan government investigated on the tip from a citizen. Daikane Bunki says, "We couldn't secure enough cucumbers from Yamagata and Iwate". So they packaged the cucumbers from Fukushima that they had in the inventory, and sold them. The Tokyo metropolitan government instructed the company that it should try not to do that again.

Yes please if its not too much bother could you please try not to do that again, cheers.
 
"The Tokyo metropolitan government instructed the company that it should try not to do that again."

Bloody health and safety nazis :( it does remind you of what some people/companies will do unless watched.

Sorry I've not been commenting - I still find it difficult to believe that it's still going on there. Still appreciate the updates though. :)
 
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