Over 44 people killed in crowd disaster in Israel

[A380]

Agreed, weird tasteless comment

I knew you were a racist with your comments about the English, hadn’t realised you were so anti Semitic you’d defend the Israeli police though.

 

[eatmorecheese]

You've always been a low life, ignorant wankstain so I don't care about what you think of me

Do you not understand the reaction? Not just from Spymaster but from others?

Ok then.

 

[ddraig]

I knew you were a racist with your comments about the English, hadn’t realised you were so anti Semitic you’d defend the Israeli police though.

What the fucking fuck?!? neither of those things so fuck off and retract, you made a crass comment and got called on it, deal with it

 

[AmateurAgitator]

It’s literally the start of the second paragraph in the Guardian article. But I guess because they were Jewish children you don’t care about their deaths.

Anyone being jewish has nothing to do with anything. I did say their deaths were sad btw, which they are.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Those 700 + who were trampled to death at Haj a few years ago was that also a good thing in a way Count Cuckula ?

I didn't say it was good. I just tend to be kinda indifferent to the misfortunes of religious bigots, as stated in my original post.

On reflection I do find the deaths of the children tragic.

 

[Aladdin]

Anyone being jewish has nothing to do with anything. I did say their deaths were sad btw, which they are.

They're not just religious, they're religious fundamentalists and bigots, and though it is sad that children have died, to be realistic they would have likely grown up to be hate-filled bigots.

You forget you wrote this ^^^^^

 

[Aladdin]

I didn't say it was good. I just tend to be kinda indifferent to the misfortunes of religious bigots, as stated in my original post.

On reflection I do find the deaths of the children tragic.

Only because people pointed out how fucking callous your posts are ..


You're a pathetic nazi loving right wing fuckwit. Outed by yourself.

 

[A380]

What the fucking fuck?!? neither of those things so fuck off and retract, you made a crass comment and got called on it, deal with it

The first is definitely true based on your posts. The second is my supposition. Comments linking two crowd disasters ( something I know a fair bit about both academically and practically) are what is known as discussion. None are crass. Calling you a cunt would be crass. But I’ll leave that to others. I’ll expect more whinging PMs from you again.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

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Why would anyone commit suicide merely because of a comment, not aimed at them, on an internet forum? That strikes me as stupid and completely and absurdly OTT.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

You're a pathetic nazi loving right wing fuckwit.

Again, completely OTT.

 

[ddraig]

The first is definitely true based on your posts. The second is my supposition. Comments linking two crowd disasters ( something I know a fair bit about both academically and practically are what is known as discussion). None are crass. Calling you a cunt would be crass. But I’ll leave that to others. I’ll expect more whinging PMs from you again.

You stupid fucking idiot. I'll do this point by point for you
It's not fucking true apart from in your twisted head, the english are not a fucking race
Fuck off with your incredibly offensive "supposition", so so wrong there and not going to explain my family history/origin/make up
ooh "academically" is it, get to fuck
Yes it was crass and you need to stop digging

I'm not going to pm you you prick, I've pm'd you once because you were again out of order claiming I was "crayoning" on the thread about tufty where I was really really concerned people were discussing personal details of someone not there, tried to clarify what you meant in pm with you rather than do it on the thread but you wouldn't expand you got all snotty, shitty and placed yourself on a high horse, fuck off

 

[platinumsage]

Funny how the people who liked Count Cuckula’s first post on this thread have now swiftly unliked it after realising that particular brand of secularism isn’t as welcome here as they first thought.

 

[editor]

44 people have bene killed and this is the response on urban?

 

[A380]

You stupid fucking idiot. I'll do this point by point for you
It's not fucking true apart from in your twisted head, the english are not a fucking race
Fuck off with your incredibly offensive "supposition", so so wrong there and not going to explain my family history/origin/make up
ooh "academically" is it, get to fuck
Yes it was crass and you need to stop digging

I'm not going to pm you you prick, I've pm'd you once because you were again out of order claiming I was "crayoning" on the thread about tufty where I was really really concerned people were discussing personal details of someone not there, tried to clarify what you meant in pm with you rather than do it on the thread but you wouldn't expand you got all snotty, shitty and placed yourself on a high horse, fuck off

Not sure this is the thread for this.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Awful thing to happen, must have been terrifying to have been involved.

And fucking awful shit on this thread.

 

[ddraig]

Not sure this is the thread for this.

Don't make stupid completely untrue highly offensive accusations and pathetic digs and dangerous claims then

 

[Idris2002]

Possibly the most tasteless post I've ever seen on these boards.

And that's saying something.

 

[Idris2002]

, to be realistic they would have likely grown up to be hate-filled bigots.

It must be great to be the only thinking person in a world of sheep.

 

[A380]

...to be realistic they would have likely grown up to be hate-filled bigots.

I had to read that a few times. Why would, in your opinion, these children have so little agency that it was more likely than not they would become hate-filled and bigoted? Because they are have religious parents? Because they are Jewish or some other reason?

 

[bimble]

I can't even imagine what it must be like in Count Cuckula 's head, maybe its nice in there, a simple place where some people are the Baddies, and you know exactly which ones those are, and if the baddies children get crushed to death that is a bit sad after all ,upon reflection, but they are the Bigots obvs not your good self.

 

[A380]

The pressure of crowds is a very scary thing. Most times the press write about ‘stampedes’ but CCTV shows us that is normally an aggregation of pressure causing crush injuries against fixed objects or other people. The pressures generated can be enormous, enough to bend steel railings, with most deaths caused by asphyxiation. The problem is overcrowding at one location only needs light shoving a few tens of meters away to amplify to crushing levels of force. Once an incident starts it’s almost impossible to stop it. Stewarding, policing and venue design being the main mitigation. Whatever the cause it’s a hugely frightening thing to experience and one can’t even start to imagine what a horrible death it must be, or the terror of watching loved ones die inches from you when there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

 

[BigMoaner]

horrible. what an awful disaster.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Just a hunch, but I get the feeling that people wouldn't care so much if this happened to Taliban or Islamic State people.

 

[BigMoaner]

Just a hunch, but I get the feeling that people wouldn't care so much if this happened to Taliban or Islamic State people.

not sure that justifies not caring at all though

 

[Saul Goodman]

I can't even imagine what it must be like in Count Cuckula 's head, maybe its nice in there, a simple place where some people are the Baddies, and you know exactly which ones those are, and if the baddies children get crushed to death that is a bit sad after all ,upon reflection, but they are the Bigots obvs not your good self.

I think you pretty much nailed it there. It's one thing having those thoughts but you have to be a special kind of simple to post them here. The bit about the children was the cherry on the cake, and what's worse is he can't understand why he didn't get a load of likes for it.

 

[A380]

Just a hunch, but I get the feeling that people wouldn't care so much if this happened to Taliban or Islamic State people

You must be in a bad place. I suspect if kids were killed in a crowd disaster in an IS refugee camp people here would be similarly appalled.

 

[BigMoaner]

Just a hunch, but I get the feeling that people wouldn't care so much if this happened to Taliban or Islamic State people.

"no one cares about IS, so why care for this lot?" not sure if hte ethics are the right way round on that one tbh

anyway, this will be 18 pages, and i'm out early.

 

[platinumsage]

Just a hunch, but I get the feeling that people wouldn't care so much if this happened to Taliban or Islamic State people.

So you think the Taliban, Islamic State and ultra-orthodox Jews are all equally bad, or that Jews get special treatment?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I had to read that a few times. Why would, in your opinion, these children have so little agency that it was more likely than not they would become hate-filled and bigoted? Because they are have religious parents? Because they are Jewish or some other reason?

Sectarianism and religious fundamentalist indoctrination. Obvious really.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

So you think the Taliban, Islamic State and ultra-orthodox Jews are all equally bad, or that Jews get special treatment?

I think they're all as bad as one another. Those ultra orthodox jews murder Palestinian children and celebrate it and walk free. The islamic fundies are just as bad though.