ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's good to see that you realise that your argument is so bereft of quality that you have to resort to gibbering nonsense.
Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!
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It's good to see that you realise that your argument is so bereft of quality that you have to resort to gibbering nonsense.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I've said on the other thread but i'll say it here:
Anyone who thinks charging soo much for cereal is a gentrification issue is talking hypocritical bullshit if they have ever bought a coffee when out or a take away pizza as they themselves have already paid over the odds for something they could have made at home for a fraction of the cost.
However I couldn't have 100 of their 120 cereals at my home because i don't have a clue how to get hold of them in the UK and it would no doubt cost me lots of time, effort and money to track em down.
Anyone who thinks charging soo much for cereal is a gentrification issue is talking hypocritical bullshit if they have ever bought a coffee when out or a take away pizza as they themselves have already paid over the odds for something they could have made at home for a fraction of the cost.
However I couldn't have 100 of their 120 cereals at my home because i don't have a clue how to get hold of them in the UK and it would no doubt cost me lots of time, effort and money to track em down.
btw while I think picking out the cereal cafe was wrong (even if it's the last place I'd chose to spend time in myself) I think that's a bit of a distraction from what looks like a generally good event. Looks well attended and I think the work done (especially the poor doors stuff) is well needed.
I'd like to see better targeting. Here's a good list to start with. I'd support making these people feel more uncomfortable at home for sure and I'd support using smoke bombs especially if they could start a fire if such people were the target.
I'd like to see better targeting. Here's a good list to start with. I'd support making these people feel more uncomfortable at home for sure and I'd support using smoke bombs especially if they could start a fire if such people were the target.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
It's true - I can't engage seriously with incoherent virtue-signalling dressed up as spokesmanship for the poor.It's good to see that you realise that your argument is so bereft of quality that you have to resort to gibbering nonsense.
Guilty m'lud!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i prfer the better known eton rifles. but each to their own.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what a big man you are. when was thd last time you attacked someone?If I was in there with my kids and some brave class warrior threw a smoke grenade into the cafe they wouldn't do it again. They'd have more pressing things on their mind
cantsin
Well-Known Member
ffs, it's simple stuff ----
faddy, 100% hipster small business run by two well heeled , media savvy hipsters = seen as emblem of gentrification.
there's nothing even remotely hypocritical about it, it just is ....
two working class guys from Belfast set up an unusual food business which attracts media attention - they've got beards and fit a particular stereotype so are now legitimate targets...
but if they'd set up say a kebab shop or fried chicken place which didn't get media attention and didn't look/dress like 'hipsters' they'd be OK?
it does seem like 'simple stuff' - like I said before tis just a case of they look like the people we don't like lets attack it...
cantsin
Well-Known Member
not arguing their 'legitimacy' as targets - 100 % impossible to quantify in any meaningful terms - just the obvious reasons for them becoming targets, in passing/ last night.
Have witnessed exactly this in the area around Stokes Croft, Bristol. Excellent post and sadly too true.
That's for the smallest portion. The absolute cheapest.
It's £1.50 for two slices of toast with a spread.
It's about £1.20 for a bowl of cereal and two slices of toast at my non-subsidised work canteen.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
If I was an agent provocateur, attacking small businesses and turning neutrals against the cause is exactly the sort of thing I'd do.
not really a good comparison, especially as they're apparently importing cereals not usually sold in the UK... most food businesses like that charge a huge markup
some restaurants up brick lane charge for 'still water' if you don't specify tap water - should they be targeted?
The £2.50 is the smallest portion of British cereal. It's more for US or World imports. Have you even bothered looking at their website before making your arguments?
I don't really care too much about the irrelevant complaints about prices - the fact is you'll pay similar prices for some dodgy kebab or fried chicken or any number of other things in that area - all of which is sold at a big markup - there was some laughable argument about some strawperson with their three kids not being able to enjoy the cereal cafe a few pages back... when the prices aren't too different to many other fast food places
yes indeed
You're missing the point by a country mile. Unless you think that fried chicken shops don't connect with the communities they appear in. There's plenty of takeaways in working class areas. A cafe selling bowls of cereal and a couple of slices of toast for a fiver wouldn't last very long though.
Unless the social make-up changes.
Unless the social make-up changes.
grit
an ugly force for good
free spirit
more tea vicar?
In the past I could at least agree with the reasons why the smashy smashy brigade would target the windows of starbucks, mcdonalds.
daring to have beards and charge £3.50 for a bowl of cereal though is complete bollocks as a political justification for attacking a cafe set up and run by 2 working class kids.
Complete bullshit IMO
daring to have beards and charge £3.50 for a bowl of cereal though is complete bollocks as a political justification for attacking a cafe set up and run by 2 working class kids.
Complete bullshit IMO
how do you know what the social makeup of the customers of this cafe are? They could be mostly students etc... The whole street caters to people from outside that area and has done so long before this cafe arrived - do you think the other restaurants on brick lane are only aimed at people living in the borough/immediate area? People go visit there from all over London and have done for a while. You'll probably find more bankers in one of the curry houses on a Friday night than in some hipster cereal place.
sounds like even more of this whole they look like the people we don't like, lets attack them mentality....
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
Cereal killer cafe does seem pretentious, but I can't help but think you are shooting yourselves in the foot if you think by attacking a small independent establishment such as this (however pretentious they are) you will get your point across, you are wrong. If anything you have done more to promote this business, many more people will show solidarity to them than sign up to class war. It also just comes across as if your protests are attacking anything business orientated regardless of size. If you are anti business of any size just say so, and attack all businesses including small kebab shops or the brick lane curry houses (doubt you would because they would smash your face in with a baseball bat as the rioters in Tottenham found out). I understand the opposition to gentrification in most senses, but I do not agree with Class wars actions in this way, you are going to lose more understanding or support than gain, but perhaps thats your aim. Seems daft to me, cowardly almost.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Was just reading about the two Irish immigrants who set up the café with the help of their builder/sparks dad.
Cereal Killer Cafe: Belfast brothers open UK's first ever cafe selling nothing but cereal - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Where did you get this "two working class lads" nonsense from? They were sales managers prior to this.
Belfast is in the UK isn't it?
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
Do you honestly think a sales manager can't be from a working class background? Should we all be labourers?
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