Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[BlackArab]

If it's true they wear wearing pig masks they were lucky not to have seen the baseball bats come out. This is a look I would associate with the EDL.

 

[free spirit]

Where did you get this "two working class lads" nonsense from? They were sales managers prior to this.

sons of a Belfast builder / electrician, state educated, went to belfast poly.....

what would you call them?

 

[Belushi]

Was just reading about the two Irish immigrants who set up the café with the help of their builder/sparks dad.

Cereal Killer Cafe: Belfast brothers open UK's first ever cafe selling nothing but cereal - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The boys, who are 32 years old

 

[Citizen66]

Do you honestly think a sales manager can't be from a working class background? Should we all be labourers?

You think a university educated sales manager is working class?

 

[Citizen66]

sons of a Belfast builder / electrician, state educated, went to belfast poly.....

what would you call them?

Was he a brick layer? A 'builder' generally means owns their own firm.

 

[Citizen66]

Oh great. Another debate about class!

 

[Batboy]

You think a university educated sales manager is working class?

I've been a sales manager I have no qualifications from school having left before my exams, and came from a council estate brought up by a mental ill single parent. Your point is?

 

[Dowie]

Was just reading about the two Irish immigrants who set up the café with the help of their builder/sparks dad.

Cereal Killer Cafe: Belfast brothers open UK's first ever cafe selling nothing but cereal - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

interesting in this thread they've been called:

two well heeled , media savvy hipsters = seen as emblem of gentrification.

You know, upwardly-mobile 'entrepreneurs' with access to capital,

yet according to that article they were turned down by their bank for a loan, turned down by a whole bunch of landlords, use their flat as the storeroom and had help from their dad (a builder & sparky) setting up the place

 

[Citizen66]

I've been a sales manager I have no qualifications from school having left before my exams, and came from a council estate brought up by a mental ill single parent. Your point is?

You have your own business employing others now don't you?

 

[Citizen66]

But brown sauce rather than balsamic vinegar m'lud!

 

[Citizen66]

A builder AND sparky! Jack of no trades but employer of many.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Always seems weird to call the builder I've used before anything other than working class given he sometimes uses a lad to help him, gets fucking mucky, digs foundations, lays bricks, lives in a predominantly working class town, etc etc etc. But no, he's A Boss now

 

[sim667]

Am I missing something? Or did the literally get a some budget cereal and ketchup and put it on the shop window? The estate agent was the place that got smashed up?

 

[free spirit]

Was he a brick layer? A 'builder' generally means owns their own firm.

it tends to more mean they're a bit of a jack of all trades rather than specialising in a single trade IME. The ones who work from start to finish on one build while the trades move from build to build doing their specialist bits.

some of them are self employed / manage building firms, others are just builders who build things for people who pay them.

Either way, they're hardly up there with the Eton tribe, and this remains complete a completely bullshit action.

 

[Batboy]

Ok here is the acid test for Class War and a task I set you. One of the most awful things about Capitalism has been on the football side. The working classes have been fucked over royally especially in the Premier league. Take your protests to a West Ham/Chelsea/Tottenham/Arsenal game, West Ham would be good because of the Olympic Stadium. kick it off as a protest attack the grounds and everything they stand for daub paint on the stadiums and scare the punters. They are a far more legitimate target than some small pretentious poxy cafe in Brick Lane. Would be great publicity.

Let me know when you are going to do this So I can pull up a deck chair and entertain myself for the day.

 

[Batboy]

You have your own business employing others now don't you?

Yep, have done for many years I am a great believer in small businesses and if anyone came to attack my business they would have the biggest fight they had ever seen. Class war don't pick on kebab shops because the whole Turkish community would gang up and slit their throats. One of the things I noticed during the London riots was how they stood together and armed themselves. There is a massive hole in Class wars argument in attacking certain businesses. They are cowards. Go attack a football club, they are more legitimate than some poxy pretentious cafe in Brick Lane.

The real shame is that I am anti corporate , I hate the financial institutions, I hate the property market situation, I hate the way the working classes have been fucked over, but if you think by attacking a small business I will support you, you can go fuck yourself.

 

[hipipol]

You think a university educated sales manager is working class?

In the current world yes
So two boys from a not rich background, from a violence prone area decide that, laden with debt they needed a scheme to get SOMETHING back from London
We have no breakdown of the attackers background, prob a bunch of fuckin Tarquins on a GapYah who are experiencing "Londons Vibrancy" on the basis that Daddy will always bail them out - ref that twat son of guitar player with loads of wedge who thought himself beyond reproach cos of who his Dad was - no doubt the young Cameron was the same
More info is needed before a blanket blame is apportioned I thinkl

 

[ClassWar2015]

it is a very hot exothermic reaction that can easily set stuff on fire, it could set plenty of places on fire and it is fucking stupid to throw it into an enclosed space with a bunch of people in, tis rather dumb to try and justify it with 'oh but its a chemical reaction not burning'

Are they fuck. They are a "cold burn" designed for play during airsoft and paintball games. You can hold them in your bare hands.

Go have a shave and think about your life.

 

[hipipol]

A builder AND sparky! Jack of no trades but employer of many.

Oh Yeah?
have you ever worked on a site?

 

[Citizen66]

Always seems weird to call the builder I've used before anything other than working class given he sometimes uses a lad to help him, gets fucking mucky, digs foundations, lays bricks, lives in a predominantly working class town, etc etc etc. But no, he's A Boss now

You know there's varying levels of it?

 

[Citizen66]

Oh Yeah?
have you ever worked on a site?

Nah. I'm a posh sparky me. Space shuttles only.

 

[editor]

Yep, have done for many years I am a great believer in small businesses and if anyone came to attack my business they would have the biggest fight they had ever seen. Class war don't pick on kebab shops because the whole Turkish community would gang up and slit their throats.

Yes, because that's what the Turks do, isn't it? Throatslitters, the lot of them.

 

[ClassWar2015]

If I was an agent provocateur, attacking small businesses and turning neutrals against the cause is exactly the sort of thing I'd do.

I'm not surprised a Syriza supporter spews shite like that.

 

[Citizen66]

Yep, have done for many years I am a great believer in small businesses and if anyone came to attack my business they would have the biggest fight they had ever seen. Class war don't pick on kebab shops because the whole Turkish community would gang up and slit their throats. One of the things I noticed during the London riots was how they stood together and armed themselves. There is a massive hole in Class wars argument in attacking certain businesses. They are cowards. Go attack a football club, they are more legitimate than some poxy pretentious cafe in Brick Lane.

The real shame is that I am anti corporate , I hate the financial institutions, I hate the property market situation, I hate the way the working classes have been fucked over, but if you think by attacking a small business I will support you, you can go fuck yourself.

Small business owners will never be 'on side'. They're fully invested in the mechanics of capital and class.

 

[Batboy]

Yes, because that's what the Turks do, isn't it? Throatslitters, the lot of them.

I live close to Stoke Newington, When the London riots were on, they got together to protect there premises. They armed themselves with bats, clubs and yes meat cleavers. You may want to twist my description into some absurd racial stereotyping but its a bit lame. The fact remains the likes of class war go after soft targets. As I said before for Class War go attack the curry houses in Brick Lane or go attack premiership clubs especially on match day. You and I know what would happen.

 

[Citizen66]

You always get reactions such as this from Liberals. They don't like uncontrolled (not peaceful) demonstration.

 

[Batboy]

Small business owners will never be 'on side'. They're fully invested in the mechanics of capital and class.

Yep because society will really work without trading of any kind.

 

[free spirit]

Nah. I'm a posh sparky me. Space shuttles only.

and would you describe yourself as working class?

because the other bloke also describes himself as an electrician, and his wife says they're working class.

“I’ve been here since last Monday. 14 hour days. We didn’t think we’d get anywhere close to being finished for Wednesday. It was all hands to the pump.

“You see the kitchen? That was the main thing, there was nothing there and I had to put it in.

“There’s a dishwasher, a coffee machine, two sinks that had to go into that kitchen from scratch. In the wee snug, I had to fit a lot of seating, upholstered and all that.

“There was no carpets down here at all, and I’m an electrician by trade, and I had to put sockets in!

“All these lights, they had to be arranged, low voltage to make it safe. Joiner work, plumbing and electrical work.”

We’re from a working class family and when you talk about poverty, we’re from a very deprived area of Belfast.

So I visited the Cereal Killer Cafe and what happened next surprised… ME!

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I'm not surprised a Syriza supporter spews shite like that.

You think it's good PR do you? Attacking a small business?

Think people will rally to your cause? Really?

Care to demonstrate an evidence base, or are you too busy feeling like you changed things by being part of smashing up a cereal shop? Wow.

Good luck and all power to those resisting evictions and confronting even the likes of letting agents, but this is more pathetic than even your partisan sniping.

 

[editor]

I live close to Stoke Newington, When the London riots were on, they got together to protect there premises. They armed themselves with bats, clubs and yes meat cleavers. You may want to twist my description into some absurd racial stereotyping but its a bit lame. The fact remains the likes of class war go after soft targets. As I said before for Class War go attack the curry houses in Brick Lane or go attack premiership clubs especially on match day. You and I know what would happen.

Some of them got together to protect their premises and - correct me if I'm wrong - none of them went around slitting peoples throats. Such shoddy stereotypes borders on racism.