Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[ClassWar2015]

Pillock thanks for the abuse.... I'll try not to sink to your level
Premiership clubs are the err height of capitalism, Murdoch Sky Billionaires, 200 k a week salaries. Are you really that stupid?

Go and have a think about your racism. While I enjoy my baklava just bought from Green Lanes.

 

[Citizen66]

you're talking so much shite today.

So if he is / was an electrician would that class as them being from a working class background or not?

I'm not talking shite mate. If you talk to a sparky they'll tell you they are a sparky. If you talk to a business owner that used to be a sparky but employs others to do it they'll say "I'm a sparky by trade". Or if they're selling holidays nowadays or a taxi driver or whatever. You say it when you're no longer doing it but to tell people you're trained at it.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Martin on last night.

The turnout sounds good, as does much of the intent. But it's not "sobbing.. cobblers" to be rather shocked about having your workplace attacked. "The tsunami of welath and money" - yep, dead right. "streets and public spaces are our only forum" - yep. But some targets really are easier to understand while others will alienate folk.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I'm just genuinely curious about what input local people had into the organising/objectives of the protest, and how many from the area targeted were part of this protest, ie what were the channels of communication and who was involved in the decision making

 

[Citizen66]

What does he write?

Hang on. I don't know where to find it but others might.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Go and have a think about your racism. While I enjoy my baklava just bought from Green Lanes.

Cereal. Baklava. How awful. Sneering at that stuff will really show people.

 

[ClassWar2015]

The turnout sounds good, as does much of the intent. But it's not "sobbing" cobblers to be rather shocked about having your workplace attacked. "The tsunami of welath and money" - yep, dead right. "streets and public spaces are our only forum" - yep. But some targets really are easier to understand while others will alienate folk.

It's not for you to understand. We are not acting to attract your class.

 

[free spirit]

I'm not talking shite mate. If you talk to a sparky they'll tell you they are a sparky. If you talk to a business owner that used to be a sparky but employs others to do it they'll say "I'm a sparky by trade". Or if they're selling holidays nowadays or a taxi driver or whatever. You say it when you're no longer doing it but to tell people you're trained at it.

it's also what a retired spark would say.

it's also irrelevant to whether they come from a working class background or not - something their mum specifically says they do.

 

[maomao]

what would attacking RBS in Lpool St have had to do with Gentrification in Shoreditch ?

Loads. Have you any idea of the size of their BTL portfolio? Middle class kids spending 70% of their wages to live in a shoebox somewhere trendy are just pawns in the game. I found it amusing when I read about it this morning but I don't think it was a great target tactically.

 

[hipipol]

You mean the fifteen years before I worked for a large org = less experience than you have of the game?

Nope, what I'm saying is, having been cocooned as I have by my slow climb up the safety of employment ladder, I have forgotten many things
Equally, you must be the same
Having said that, I have been self employed many times, even once - shock horror, employing 2 people - something I had to give up as the strain of ensuring the employment of others was beyond me - mainly tbf cos my biz partner was always well loose in the trouser dept and was, not to be squeamish, a vile sexist predatory shit, so I closed it
I need more info before I can lay blame at these poor buggers feet

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

It's not for you to understand. We are not acting to attract your class.

You know fuck all about my class, making assumptions about people you don't know isn't very admirable.

 

[Citizen66]

it's also what a retired spark would say.

it's also irrelevant to whether they come from a working class background or not - something their mum specifically says they do.

Linda Lee Potter came from a working class background. So what?

 

[Citizen66]

They now have two cafes employing others. Good old working class lads.

 

[Batboy]

Go and have a think about your racism. While I enjoy my baklava just bought from Green Lanes.

Do you know this is the usual shit on these forums and why I often disappear. . You cannot engage and answer intelligent questions choosing instead to cry 'racism' because that is in your mind the only way out of an argument.. Mate you are picking on the wrong person for that. fuck off or someone ban me..... Urban 75 used to be interesting it is morphing into some back slapping self congratulatory forum with central characters that have been on here since its inception. Anyone with an alternative view from the bully core is drowned out by accusations such as this.

 

[free spirit]

Linda Lee Potter came from a working class background. So what?

so you're first post in this exchange was bollocks.

If you're now going to move on to the 'so what if they came from a working class background' phase of the discussion, please make your case for how this is some sort of a class war that the working class masses should support. I'd like to see you explaining to them all how if their kids end up doing marginally well, then they should be viewed as legit targets for class wars attacks.

It's utter bullshit.

 

[Belushi]

Loads. Have you any idea of the size of their BTL portfolio? Middle class kids spending 70% of their wages to live in a shoebox somewhere trendy are just pawns in the game. I found it amusing when I read about it this morning but I don't think it was a great target tactically.

This.

 

[Batboy]

Absolute moron

Clearly you are....

 

[Belushi]

Urban 75 used to be interesting it is morphing into some back slapping self congratulatory forum with central characters that have been on here since its inception. Anyone with an alternative view from the bully core is drowned out by accusations such as this.

It's much more middle class liberal on here than it was years ago. There are very few anarchists left here nowadays.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

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Are you still writing your anti working class Antifa shite?

If you are referring to my occasional knocks, some years ago, against stupid race-hate scum, I don't associate class with intelligence. Maybe you do.

 

[Citizen66]

well don't read it then, but it did quote both of their parents talking directly about their working class backgrounds, which Citizen seems to have a problem accepting.

Why did they take great pains to point out their class background in the newspaper article about this hipster cafe btw? Why was it relevant?

 

[Ax^]

fuck me ya think 2 working class kids from a social deprived area of Belfast

would not be shitted up by a few people throwing stones and wearing pigs mask..

 

[Batboy]

It's much more middle class liberal on here than it was years ago. There are very few anarchists left here nowadays.

That's because they all have mortgages now....

 

[hipipol]

Do you know this is the usual shit on these forums and why I often disappear. . You cannot engage and answer intelligent questions choosing instead to cry 'racism' because that is in your mind the only way out of an argument.. Mate you are picking on the wrong person for that. fuck off or someone ban me..... Urban 75 used to be interesting it is morphing into some back slapping self congratulatory forum with central characters that have been on here since its inception. Anyone with an alternative view from the bully core is drowned out by accusations such as this.

Alternative should not include "Throat slitting" as part of its intellectual armoury I feel........

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

It's much more middle class liberal on here than it was years ago. There are very few anarchists left here nowadays.

Middle class folk should know their place and be conservatives or reactionaries.

Only sons of the soil like kropotkin should have a crack at the real politics.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

That's because they all have mortgages now....

Again, evidence base?

 

[free spirit]

Why did they take great pains to point out their class background in the newspaper article about this hipster cafe btw? Why was it relevant?

Presumably because the interview was taking place the day after channel 4 had had a pop at them for daring to open a cafe in a poor working class area of London.

 

[Citizen66]

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If you are referring to my occasional knocks, some years ago, against stupid race-hate scum, I don't associate class with intelligence. Maybe you do.

I link poor education with class. Maybe you don't?

 

[Batboy]

Again, evidence base?

.. they come to my dinner parties!

 

[hipipol]

fuck me ya think 2 working class kids from a social deprived area of Belfast

would not be shitted up by a few people throwing stones and wearing pigs mask..

Lacking a bit bottle eh?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

It's always instructive to see people remotely guage the sophisticated detail of the socio-economic status and nuanced politics of folk they have never met, on not much evidence, and then cast enourmous know-all judgement on it. The humility of it is also very moving. I wish I could carry that sort of act off.