Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[ViolentPanda]

'oh look those people have beards and dress differently, and have moved in to our homes, pricing us out of where we grew up by raising rents and charging phenominal prices for their product, making stupid rich people think that this is the place to be because stuff is far too expensive for poor people, that's why they all had to go and live 'somewhere else'.

Fuck you. You're either a troll, or stupid. I'm not here to play with you.

Or both.

 

[ViolentPanda]

how do you know that the people with beards in the hipster cafe people are the same people who've priced you out of 'your' area?

tis the same mentality as the idiots who attack mosques in response to Islamist attacks - oh look they've got beards and look like the people we don't like...

fuck you too if you think that sort of thing is justifiable

It's not the same mentality at all.

 

[cantsin]

If I was in there with my kids and some brave class warrior threw a smoke grenade into the cafe they wouldn't do it again. They'd have more pressing things on their mind

uh, oh,intwerweb vigilante hero on the loose

 

[ViolentPanda]

it is a very hot exothermic reaction that can easily set stuff on fire, it could set plenty of places on fire and it is fucking stupid to throw it into an enclosed space with a bunch of people in, tis rather dumb to try and justify it with 'oh but its a chemical reaction not burning'

Have you ever been up close to a smoke grenade? They burn hot enough to mark a bare hand, sure. Then again, I've held standard issue smoke grenades wearing standard issue woollen gloves, and my gloves didn't ignite or even smoulder. You're whipping up a moral panic about smoke grenades based on a series of what-ifs and hyperbole about "can easily set stuff on fire". The fact is that it can't "easily set" anything afire. You'd need a chain of poor management and hygiene, plus the luck of Job for there to be even a chance of ignition.

 

[Citizen66]

If I was in there with my kids and some brave class warrior threw a smoke grenade into the cafe they wouldn't do it again. They'd have more pressing things on their mind

Internet hard men?

 

[ViolentPanda]

If I was in there with my kids and some brave class warrior threw a smoke grenade into the cafe they wouldn't do it again. They'd have more pressing things on their mind

You whining about how you weren't going to get your money-worth from the bowls of cereal, or are you an internet hardman who'd have seen the ruffians off?

 

[SpamMisery]

Have you ever been up close to a smoke grenade? They burn hot enough to mark a bare hand, sure. Then again, I've held standard issue smoke grenades wearing standard issue woollen gloves, and my gloves didn't ignite or even smoulder. You're whipping up a moral panic about smoke grenades based on a series of what-ifs and hyperbole about "can easily set stuff on fire". The fact is that it can't "easily set" anything afire. You'd need a chain of poor management and hygiene, plus the luck of Job for there to be even a chance of ignition.

I set my grandads shed on fire with a couple of over the counter smoke bombs.

A mighty blow has been struck against the cereal eaters of London.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The dynamics of what happens in areas when they are gentrified.

Perhaps Dowie is fortunate enough not to have his nose rubbed in the dynamics of gentrification daily, or perhaps he's a gentrifier himself - I've noticed that such people have a very hard time understanding the harm they cause.

 

[cantsin]

response to last night on a football related forum elsewhere :

"they want to 'reclaim' the area.
I have no issue with that.
Brasses all around Spitalfields, Commercial & Fashion St.
Tens Bells, White, Browns, Crown & Shuttle, Ye Olde Axe to name but a few with strippers going around with pint pots.
PettiCoat Lane market with stalls selling steaming salt beef rolls.
Watching through the window as the old Jewish butchers slaughter chickens .
The Big Red Building in Pett.....
Getting a deal on sheepskin or a leather box jacket.
The Last Resort off down to blackmans to get a new pair of d.m's ...

buy some razor blades of the deaf n dumb bloke on the corner of brick lane !!
stop in the pub on the way home as its sunday lunchtime.. cheese n biscuits and cockles and shrimps on the bar.. followed up by fluffy roast tatties."

not saying many out last night would be able to relate directlyto the above ( or that there wasn't much more challenging stuff to follow on that thread re: Bengalis etc ) , but the folk-memory of what the area once was remains - easy to see CKC as some kind of bearded pisstake in the face of all that.

 

[Dowie]

Have you ever been up close to a smoke grenade? They burn hot enough to mark a bare hand, sure. Then again, I've held standard issue smoke grenades wearing standard issue woollen gloves, and my gloves didn't ignite or even smoulder. You're whipping up a moral panic about smoke grenades based on a series of what-ifs and hyperbole about "can easily set stuff on fire". The fact is that it can't "easily set" anything afire. You'd need a chain of poor management and hygiene, plus the luck of Job for there to be even a chance of ignition.

yawn

Smoke grenade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Typical design consists of a sheet steel cylinder with four emission holes on top and one on the bottom to allow smoke release when the grenade is ignited. The filler consists of 250 to 350 grams of colored (red, green, orange, gray, yellow, blue, white, black, or violet) smoke composition (mostly potassium chlorate, lactose, and a dye). The reaction is exothermic and though they remain intact, smoke grenade casings will often remain scalding hot for some time even after the grenade is no longer emitting smoke. Although modern smoke grenades are designed not to directly emit fire or sparks, they remain a fire hazard and are capable of igniting dry vegetation or flammable substances if used injudiciously.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I set my grandads shed on fire with a couple of over the counter smoke bombs.

A mighty blow has been struck against the cereal eaters of London.

A smoke bomb is a firework that uses inflammable material. A smoke grenade uses a confined chemical reaction that generates no sparks.

 

[gosub]

how do you know that the people with beards in the hipster cafe people are the same people who've priced you out of 'your' area?

so the £3.20 people are spending on a bowl of cornflakes, comes from savings on razor blades

 

[Dowie]

Perhaps Dowie is fortunate enough not to have his nose rubbed in the dynamics of gentrification daily, or perhaps he's a gentrifier himself - I've noticed that such people have a very hard time understanding the harm they cause.

Yes I'm afraid sometimes I do eat cereal. I'm sorry I can't empathize with the trauma faced by someone living in an area where a cafe has opened up selling cereal.

 

[ViolentPanda]

yawn

Smoke grenade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read your own wiki C & P, eejit. It doesn't stand up your fatuous claim that a smoke grenade can "easily" (your word,remember) start a fire.

 

[Dowie]

so the £3.20 people are spending on a bowl of cornflakes, comes from savings on razor blades

perhaps, but it is outrageous that people should sell cereal at such prices when for similar prices you can get some battery farmed chicken fried up in a load of transfats... just think, if it wasn't for those beardy types yet another fried chicken shop could be providing a valuable service to the local community

 

[SpamMisery]

Fair enough

This thread made me think of this:

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yes I'm afraid sometimes I do eat cereal. I'm sorry I can't empathize with the trauma faced by someone living in an area where a cafe has opened up selling cereal.

Who mentioned you eating cereal? If you're having to scrape the barrel that hard in order to find a reply, perhaps you shouldn't bother, so as to not look more of an arse than you already do?

 

[Dowie]

Who mentioned you eating cereal? If you're having to scrape the barrel that hard in order to find a reply, perhaps you shouldn't bother, so as to not look more of an arse than you already do?

I'm sure people trying to defend the attack on a cereal cafe don't look like arses at all...

perhaps you can pretend you don't if you've got a little group of like minded buddies but in a wider context not many people support that sort of thing

 

[cantsin]

perhaps, but it is outrageous that people should sell cereal at such prices when for similar prices you can get some battery farmed chicken fried up in a load of transfats... just think, if it wasn't for those beardy types yet another fried chicken shop could be providing a valuable service to the local community

or more likely, other bearded hipsters wld open a "social enterprise" fried chicken shop just to really confuse everyone :
: The fried food joint that’s trying to tackle teenage obesity

 

[joustmaster]

£2.50 for a bowl of cereal in a cafe doesn't sound too bad, to me

 

[Wolveryeti]

Perhaps Dowie is fortunate enough not to have his nose rubbed in the dynamics of gentrification daily, or perhaps he's a gentrifier himself - I've noticed that such people have a very hard time understanding the harm they cause.

Yep. As systemic violence goes, a cafe where you can sit down and have a bowl of cereal that's cheaper than a pint is basically Nazi Germany with more facial hair. HATE CRIME.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm sure people trying to defend the attack on a cereal cafe don't look like arses at all...

perhaps you can pretend you don't if you've got a little group of like minded buddies but in a wider context not many people support that sort of thing

No-one has claimed that many people support "that sort of thing". That's a straw man you or a similarly-minded person introduced.
Try to actually engage with facts rather than arguing from the basis of "what Dowie wishes had been said".

 

[ViolentPanda]

£2.50 for a bowl of cereal in a cafe doesn't sound too bad, to me

Depends on the size of the bowl, surely?

 

[joustmaster]

Depends on the size of the bowl, surely?

Thats the small size. The large is £3.50.

Still seems reasonable if that's all the cafe sells.

 

[ViolentPanda]

or more likely, other bearded hipsters wld open a "social enterprise" fried chicken shop just to really confuse everyone :
: The fried food joint that’s trying to tackle teenage obesity

Perhaps a "West Indian"-themed fried chicken shop selling "genuine recipe" Caribbean fried chicken, with rice and peas on the side?

 

[Wolveryeti]

£2.50 for a bowl of cereal in a cafe doesn't sound too bad, to me

Not the right answer, my friend. It is a Dickensian nightmare.

 

[hipipol]

Will there be a jellied eel and pie & mash stall?

I can put a word in for Kelly's on the Bethnal Green Road, just round the corner, where you can lay yer mits on 2 pies, mash, liquor and cup of tea for the same price as a bowl of cereal on breaking windows lane
It has the added advantage of never having any trendy loose beard hairs decorating yer dinner.......

 

[Dowie]

Yep. As systemic violence goes, a cafe where you can sit down and have a bowl of cereal that's cheaper than a pint is basically Nazi Germany with more facial hair. HATE CRIME.

well it obviously must be protested against because it is run by 'hipsters' with beards and stuff - we don't want people who look like that coming into the area

other food places get a free pass though

 

[ViolentPanda]

Thats the small size. The large is £3.50.

Still seems reasonable if that's all the cafe sells.

To me,reasonable would be about 100g dry weight of cereal for the "small" portion, and 150g for the large, plus all the milk and sugar you want. I suspect that the actual dry-weight portions are about half that size, given the photos posted on the thread about this cafe a couple of years ago, though.

And yes, I am a three shredded wheat type of person.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I can put a word in for Kelly's on the Bethnal Green Road, just round the corner, where you can lay yer mits on 2 pies, mash, liquor and cup of tea for the same price as a bowl of cereal on breaking windows lane
It has the added advantage of never having any trendy loose beard hairs decorating yer dinner.......

The problem with full-on neckbeards is that they moult like fuck unless you brush them mercilessly 3 or 4 times a day.