Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[free spirit]

So why did the arse state what he did? He could have said "give them a shoeing" and no-one would have disagreed with him, but instead he trotted out some macho throat-slitting bullshit that stated that the Turkish community in London is comprised entirely of throat-slitters.

you don't give someone a kicking with a meat cleaver.

 

[Pickman's model]

you don't give someone a kicking with a meat cleaver.

a serious kicking

 

[DotCommunist]

why do I have to do that?

because you have declared the old analysis dead, they should be informed. Else they'll continue on with the manifest foolishness

 

[J Ed]

likewise

but you're putting forth definitions that don't work well today - there are plenty of highly paid 'workers' out there and plenty of supposed bourgeoisie (whether they own a large or small stake in the business they work for) who are much worse off than them

Aren't you the one with the website where you lust after Condie Rice? Is that what we should devote ourselves to instead of class?

 

[Dowie]

Aren't you the one with the website where you lust after Condie Rice? Is that what we should devote ourselves to instead of class?

I think you're confusing me with someone else, I've not got any website where I 'lust after Condie Rice'. Perhaps there is some other 'Dowie' somewhere else on the internet who has, I'm certainly not the only person out there with this username.

 

[free spirit]

because you have declared the old analysis dead, they should be informed. Else they'll continue on with the manifest foolishness

IMO the only class war worth fighting would be against the upper class.

All the classes from A-E are interchangable within a generation / by the same person within a lifetime, whereas the upper class are a tiny proportion of the country who own the vast majority of the wealth and intend to keep it and use it and their influence over government to ensure that they and their children get to accumulate an ever greater proportion of it.

They're the real class enemy not 2 belfast lads who've opened a cafe.

 

[DotCommunist]

Aren't you the one with the website where you lust after Condie Rice? Is that what we should devote ourselves to instead of class?

no thats Peter Dow

Dowie might not be on the same page as me but Peter Dow isn't even reading the same book as everyone else. He has invented his own book

 

[J Ed]

I think you're confusing me with someone else, I've not got any website where I 'lust after Condie Rice'. Perhaps there is some other 'Dowie' somewhere else on the internet who has, I'm certainly not the only person out there with this username.

Oh I thought that this was you

 

[Citizen66]

Ourraged pretend class warriors

This doesn't work as outrage isn't the opposite of outrage and pretend class warriors isn't the opposite of liberals.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Shut up "violent" panda, you crashing bore

Go piss up a rope.

 

[Dowie]

Oh I thought that this was you

Out of interest, what made you think that person was me?

 

[Mr Retro]

The art of the insult is truly dead

 

[ViolentPanda]

you don't give someone a kicking with a meat cleaver.

And if you've got any sense,the meat cleaver is only set-dressing.

 

[free spirit]

Out of interest, what made you think that person was me?

peter dow / dowie, name similarity presumably.

 

[Mr Retro]

This doesn't work as outrage isn't the opposite of outrage and pretend class warriors isn't the opposite of liberals.

Cheers for that. "I can't go to bed. Somebody on the internet is wrong"

 

[ViolentPanda]

Aren't you the one with the website where you lust after Condie Rice? Is that what we should devote ourselves to instead of class?

No, that's the disgusting Peter Dow.

 

[Citizen66]

Does anyone?

Right, who's gonna admit to living in Hoxton?

 

[DotCommunist]

IMO the only class war worth fighting would be against the upper class.

against the system itself- one that will pit worker against worker and he who owns his house against he who don't. However we are not immune to anger at agents within a system who are ripping the piss ( I mock the cereal cafe but as I have said, silly target and the estate agents was more valid). And I wouldn't overestimate that fluidity you mention- it exists to a degree (lol) but is rapidly becoming the exception not the norm.

 

[tim]

I think you're confusing me with someone else, I've not got any website where I 'lust after Condie Rice'. Perhaps there is some other 'Dowie' somewhere else on the internet who has, I'm certainly not the only person out there with this username.

Peter Dow, the Scottish Standard Bearer.

 

[J Ed]

Out of interest, what made you think that person was me?

Same name, and he seems like he'd not be much into class either, you are a lot more coherent though so it was a silly assumption tbh

 

[Citizen66]

Me either and I don't have kids but I'm just making a point about the cowards who attacked that cafe. Because that's what they are. If they had courage they would have attacked something meaningful, but they don't, do they didn't.

So you acted hard on the Internet over somewhere you'd never visit defending kids you don't have?

 

[Citizen66]

So given this I assume you were there last night? What was your opinion from the ground of the attack on the tiny little hipster cafe?

I wasn't there last night. I would have been if I was in London though. Saturdays are awkward days for smashing up cereal bars for me.

 

[free spirit]

And if you've got any sense,the meat cleaver is only set-dressing.

maybe.

Different community, but I used to live on the edge of china town in Newcastle. During that time IIRC there were 2 occasions of people being properly attacked with meat cleavers, one of which died on the pavement 50 yards from my house.

Sometimes the person running at you with a meat cleaver really intends to use it on you, and if they spend all day using it to cut animal carcasses up the chances are they'd do you some serious damage with it and not think too much about it.

 

[Tankus]

I hope the cafe get more business on the back of this.........

If "they" wanted to make a point .....then why didn't they go to fukkin tescos

 

[Dowie]

Same name, and he seems like he'd not be much into class either, you are a lot more coherent though so it was a silly assumption tbh

tis more that I think certain definitions of class are flawed these days - I'm not trying to rubbish the idea of class itself

but I guess arguments over 'class' are probably overdone on here anyway

 

[J Ed]

I wish that people could get half as upset over the persecution of the disabled in this country as they can over a couple of whining hipsters' business.

 

[free spirit]

against the system itself- one that will pit worker against worker and he who owns his house against he who don't. However we are not immune to anger at agents within a system who are ripping the piss ( I mock the cereal cafe but as I have said, silly target and the estate agents was more valid). And I wouldn't overestimate that fluidity you mention- it exists to a degree (lol) but is rapidly becoming the exception not the norm.

The fluidity is decreasing between the bottom and the very top, but less so between the working class and the lower middle class / small business owners / self employed. 50% or so of kids are going to university now, so a lot more will end up not being viewed as trad working class, but will still ultimately be fucking skint and tied into selling their labour to survive for their entire lives one way or another.

 

[Mr Retro]

So you acted hard on the Internet over somewhere you'd never visit defending kids you don't have?

I was making a hypothetical point. But to make things clear: if I was in that cafe with my wife and niece or nephew and some twat attacked us in the way that the cafe was attacked last night, I would defend them vigorously and kick six colours of shit out of the person who attacked us.

I understand it's a posturing twattish thing to say facelessly on the Internet, but it's plain fact. Anybody who claims they wouldn't act the same way is lying. Or a coward.

 

[Citizen66]

Cheers for that. "I can't go to bed. Somebody on the internet is wrong"

You've given up on what you meant then?

 

[cantsin]

So you acted hard on the Internet over somewhere you'd never visit defending kids you don't have?

Lol, Ffs....