ISIS don't consider the "muslim" targets as muslim.
French magazine publishes controversial cartoons of Prophet Muhammad - many killed in revenge attack
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ISIS don't consider the "muslim" targets as muslim.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
That was quick.
Told you all the abandoned motor would turn up summat. Who's for the pub?
Wrong motor:
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Nope, just take off their masks and they've pretty much done all they need to do in order to sufficiently disguise themselves. You think the Gendarmes are going to stop every black-clad person on Paris streets? There aren't enough coppers to cover a single Arrondisement's Goths, existentialists and fashion-heads, let alone the whole city!
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Yes correct, extend that line of thought.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The quran contains all kinds of shit, much of it contradictory, some of it very noble, some of it vile. Hence violent Islamists can use it to justify their actions, while others use it to justify living peaceful, generous lives. Much the same as other 'holy' books.
People will pick from it what serves their purposes. In that sense, I agree with Dil4 that this is as much political as religious. But the vile shit is in there, unfortunately, and it is the inspiration and provides motivation for Islamist murderers.
Looking how clean that car is, if I was a betting man, I would be betting on them simply hiring that car.
Perhaps they really didn't give a fuck about being identified.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
French nationals in their thirties and a boy of 18, and not even capable of sustaining a getaway for half a day. So the shadowy Islamist menace terror machine recedes a bit, supplanted with three crap jihadists straight from Four Lions. Frustrating for rightists who wanted to make political capital out of this.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
And you only went in there to get a tube of Bacofoil
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
hot air baboon
Well-Known Member
....just ftr...
The imam of Drancy mosque in Paris's Seine-Saint-Denis northern suburb, Hassen Chalghoumi, condemned the attack.
"I am extremely angry. These are criminals, barbarians. They have sold their soul to hell. This is not freedom. This is not Islam and I hope the French will come out united at the end of this," he said.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/01/07/france-shooting-idINL6N0UM1ZO20150107
The imam of Drancy mosque in Paris's Seine-Saint-Denis northern suburb, Hassen Chalghoumi, condemned the attack.
"I am extremely angry. These are criminals, barbarians. They have sold their soul to hell. This is not freedom. This is not Islam and I hope the French will come out united at the end of this," he said.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/01/07/france-shooting-idINL6N0UM1ZO20150107
Already have. Look at the kind of people he tried to recruit with his manifesto - he didn't put any effort into finding out whether such people were Christian - he simply sent it to anyone that he bumped into on facebook, that ever critisised Islam.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
From Twitter:
"Obama offers U.S. assistance to French authorities in hunt for #ParisShooting attackers http://bloom.bg/1HN6APa "
I guess that means he's calling off the drone attacks which keep killing so many civilians then...
"Obama offers U.S. assistance to French authorities in hunt for #ParisShooting attackers http://bloom.bg/1HN6APa "
I guess that means he's calling off the drone attacks which keep killing so many civilians then...
elbows
Well-Known Member
I don't think you can simply say you were wrong about that. Evidence churned up due to 9/11 and subsequent events are only giving us a few angles on the real picture. Some benchmarks that could be used to measure levels of religious thought and outlook secularity might actually indicate that you are at least less wrong than you think, but such possibilities don't come with bloody reasons to pay attention to those angles.
Although one apparent reason why your prediction may have been flawed is that there is some evidence to suggest that quite a bit of the drop-off in easy to measure things such as mosque attendance actually happens to the people who come here, rather than not happening significantly until future generations.
On a related note I'm interested in the subject of what faith ends up meaning to people in thought and deed in two contrasting groups - those whose religious indoctrination and faith has been fairly constant and stable thought their lives, and those who are faithless or lapsed at some or all points in their lives until they are 'born again'. This is of interest to me not least because we may find yet more stuff in common with Christianity and Islam to talk about. And also because this topic can offer an explanation as to why your original prediction could have been right but this scenario actually lead to more extremism rather than less - more people growing up 'more secular' on at least some fronts, but for a minority of those whose lives happen to go wrong when on this path, a bloody fundamentalist rebirth on offer.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Kenan Malik @kenanmalikSeymour's piece has now been republished by Jacobin
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-islamophobia/
Paging copliker
'It's appalling but…': in @jacobinmag, the kind of response to #CharlieHebdo that makes me despair for the left: jacobinmag.com/2015/01/charli…
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
If they are crap jihadists, I'd hate to see the really good ones. The crap ones are deadly enough.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Evan Hill @evanchill
Journalists should see if this Cherif Kouachimetronews.fr/info/attentat-… is this Cherif Kouachipic.twitter.com/P4boBl9MK3
Journalists should see if this Cherif Kouachimetronews.fr/info/attentat-… is this Cherif Kouachipic.twitter.com/P4boBl9MK3
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
It's a bit rubbish to have your names all over the Internet on the day of your spectacular, isn't it?
So according to the French thing (not sure where it came from), two brothers in their 30s, French nationality, from the 10th arrondissement of Paris (so close to the Charlie Hebdo offices which are in the 11th). The nationaility of the youngest, who is possibly homeless, isn't known. The 18 year old was previously in (the equivalent of) sixth form at a lycee in Rheims (Champagne).
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I guess that depends on what they've planned next.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Dates don't match up, not if he was 26 in 2005.
E2A - don't know the date of the article, though.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The facebook group of the Black Revs who did the die in in the shopping centre in London didn't even condemn the killings, just the potential backlash
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Indeed, but, the frequency of attacks is increasing. I would actually accept the concept, that those people are not Muslims, just as I do not regard the people who blow up abortion clinics as being Christian. On reflection, my previous remarks were a bit 'knee-jerk'. I do reiterate though, my antagonism is re Islam, which is not a race. If being antagonistic towards Islam may be regarded as racist, then so are comments derogatory to Christians. The subtext is obviously 'Most Muslim people are brown', well, the vast majority of Christians are non-white.
Sorry for sporadic replies, nephew visiting.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
The facebook group of the Black Revs who did the die in in the shopping centre in London didn't even condemn the killings, just the potential backlash
worse than hitler.
teqniq
DisMembered
Wrong series, wrong reality. In the original they were also partial to a Cortina Mk III, I dunno about the Crapi. /derailWrong motor:
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
I didn't say that, I don't think it.
Sorry, just catching up. Yes, Metronews quoted on Libe.
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