SheilaNaGig
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Feminism - where are the threads?
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
And one that doesn't even back up his claim.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Do you have anything to add that isn't merely a snipe at someone else? If not, please leave the thread.
SheilaNaGig
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You are not in the same boat as I am.
I’ve done men’s work. I deliberately set out to do men’s work in order to make a point. I’ve been the only woman in the work environment in many of my jobs. In all of them, I was sexually objectified, and sometimes assaulted or abused.
Alongside that “men’s work” I’ve still had to go home to do “women’s work” such as house chores, shopping etc, in addition to all the emotional labour in family, personal relationships and social settings.
Show me your equivalent, Saul Good-man.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
You need some comparison with the men killed in one day around the world for that to constitute any argument.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
You're making my point for me
I don't know what you're asking here? Do you want me to say there are male nurses? Male care workers?
SheilaNaGig
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I couldn’t find the equivalent.
That one is for women killed by men they know.
I was making the point that living with a man at home (cooking cleaning watching TV with a man) is more dangerous than working as a crab fisherman on the Bering sea.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
The thread would be much better if you just fucked the fuck off it.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Then living with a woman is more dangerous than working as a crab fisherman on the Bering sea, as there are more men killed by women each year than there are fishermen killed on the Bering sea.
Thanks for fixing things.
8ball
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I'm not sure it is. Though the crab fishing job has seen some major improvements in safety.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It actually isn't. And nowhere near.
How many women live with men, compared to how many men work as crab fishermen on the Bering sea. I'm fairly sure, as a percentage, that working on the Bering sea is far more dangerous than living with a man, but if someone can show me figures that prove otherwise?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Capitalism called and said it's not guilty.
<it had a shifty tone to its voice when it said it, mind>
Baronage-Phase
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Read "Bering Sea Strong"
By Laura Hartema.
There are a few women working in that particular fishing industry. (Alaska and Bering Sea)
This woman is a federal observer. Spends 90 days on a fishing boat with fishermen on the Bering Sea.
Its obvious the men she works alongside absolutely have a passion for the challenge of their work. It's also obvious that it's a really physically very challenging type of work to do.
There are roughly 150 fishermen who work the Bering sea for the 90 day season each year. They will earn a 6 figure sum for that work.
It's a very rough job but there are people who really want to do it. Men and women apply every year. And only a few are selected by captains. And most of them happen to be men. Those chosen have similar characteristics.
They are physically strong. They want the challenge and dont mind isolation. They have an absolute passion for what they do. There are other jobs they could do...but most of these fishermen actually do love fishing...and those who work the Bering Sea are exceptional in that they for the most part chose/ seek it out.
80% of deaths on the boats are from hypothermia or drowning.
Injuries can be crippling. Deaths have actually dropped in the past 10 years. Mainly because Safety and occupational standards have improved.
One study by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health found that among 71 fishermen who fell overboard, only 17 were wearing personal flotation devices, even though the devices make them more than eight times as likely to survive.Why was Alaskan fishing named the most dangerous job in the world?
The nature of the work is obviously extremely physical and requires a lot of stamina and physical strength. Safety has been a big problem...as in lack of training or safety management.....it is improving though. There is also a high incidence of specific drug abuse amongst the Alaskan fishermen in order to stay awake onboard and fish longer. Heroin and meth... this has led to deaths.
No doubt it is about as rough a job as you can get. Most who get selected for Alaskan boats (yep they have to be selected...that many apply) and particularly the Bering Sea, absolutely want it....they cite the camaraderie, the adventure, the physical challenge...the man vs sea...and they also see that the money can be excellent. Often $200,000 for a 90 day season. Before tax...
The book is well worth reading. I read it after being a fan of the TV series Deadliest Catch for a good while.
Also love Alaska The Last Frontier.
Heck if I didn't have this shitty muscle disease I'd love to go there ....for good.
By Laura Hartema.
There are a few women working in that particular fishing industry. (Alaska and Bering Sea)
This woman is a federal observer. Spends 90 days on a fishing boat with fishermen on the Bering Sea.
Its obvious the men she works alongside absolutely have a passion for the challenge of their work. It's also obvious that it's a really physically very challenging type of work to do.
There are roughly 150 fishermen who work the Bering sea for the 90 day season each year. They will earn a 6 figure sum for that work.
It's a very rough job but there are people who really want to do it. Men and women apply every year. And only a few are selected by captains. And most of them happen to be men. Those chosen have similar characteristics.
They are physically strong. They want the challenge and dont mind isolation. They have an absolute passion for what they do. There are other jobs they could do...but most of these fishermen actually do love fishing...and those who work the Bering Sea are exceptional in that they for the most part chose/ seek it out.
80% of deaths on the boats are from hypothermia or drowning.
Injuries can be crippling. Deaths have actually dropped in the past 10 years. Mainly because Safety and occupational standards have improved.
One study by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health found that among 71 fishermen who fell overboard, only 17 were wearing personal flotation devices, even though the devices make them more than eight times as likely to survive.Why was Alaskan fishing named the most dangerous job in the world?
The nature of the work is obviously extremely physical and requires a lot of stamina and physical strength. Safety has been a big problem...as in lack of training or safety management.....it is improving though. There is also a high incidence of specific drug abuse amongst the Alaskan fishermen in order to stay awake onboard and fish longer. Heroin and meth... this has led to deaths.
No doubt it is about as rough a job as you can get. Most who get selected for Alaskan boats (yep they have to be selected...that many apply) and particularly the Bering Sea, absolutely want it....they cite the camaraderie, the adventure, the physical challenge...the man vs sea...and they also see that the money can be excellent. Often $200,000 for a 90 day season. Before tax...
The book is well worth reading. I read it after being a fan of the TV series Deadliest Catch for a good while.
Also love Alaska The Last Frontier.
Heck if I didn't have this shitty muscle disease I'd love to go there ....for good.
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
I asked my questions earlier because I really want to understand how feminism works, what it is, and it was because of what I'd been reading that my interest in the sex work area was peaked.
I'd like to apologise for spoiling a thread that could have been an interesting learning experience for me.
I'd like to apologise for spoiling a thread that could have been an interesting learning experience for me.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Longish thread on UBI here. FWIW I'm on the highly sceptical side.
Also in case you are interested a bunch of older threads (in some cases very old) on feminism.
Oldy from 2002 but probably one of the best.
Should men describe themselves as feminists, if they are supportive of feminism? (relatively recent from 2015)
Apparently, Feminism is dead!!! (from 2012)
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
That'll teach me to post at 3 in the morning.Piqued.
(and I don’t think it was you that spoiled the thread)
8ball
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We have now.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
For the record, from what I read about UBI, I believe the trial had run its course, as opposed to that it had "failed" as such. That finding we were talking about earlier being that, unsurprisingly, stopping hassling people about getting a job does not in itself lead to them getting a job.
More interestingly to me (and the journalism could equally have been framed as such), it suggests that the only result of hassling people to get a job is making them unhappy and creating costly bureaucracy.
Manter
Lunch Mob
This is par for the course on urban and may explain why there are no threads on feminism
Manter
Lunch Mob
I understood it wasn’t UBI because a) it wasn’t U and b) it was not enough to live on so wasn’t a BI.
It was just ‘benefits’ just without lots of strings and conditions, which we have all become used to
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