European Super League (again)
- Thread starter tommers
- Start date
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Was more making a point about the word 'Super' rather than 'Wealthy'
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
we're doing our best with the material we've been provided
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
All of them. Apart from West Ham who'll be calling on Big Sam half way through next season to save them from relegation
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Indeed, I keep mentioning him but it's such a criminal waste that Shaqiri hasn't played more - I loved what (little, on MotD) I saw of him at Stoke and the rare times except sub that he plays at Liverpool he's got delightful skills. Virtually an end to his career when he went to Liverpool
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Indeed, I keep mentioning him but it's such a criminal waste that Shaqiri hasn't played more - I loved what (little, on MotD) I saw of him at Stoke and the rare times except sub that he plays at Liverpool he's got delightful skills. Virtually an end to his career when he went to Liverpool
That's what the big clubs do though isn't it. Suck up the best players from other clubs to give their bench quality
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
And way more so if this goes ahead. They'll suck up even more so they can put out a team of Shaquiris in the Premier League with the first team saved for Wednesday against Real yet again.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, as you say he's a millionaire but it's hard not to like him. His instincts are usually spot on and his rants are great. This one was word perfect and he looked like he was on the edge of tears.
On the bigger picture it's hard coming down on the side of the PL and Uefa. They are neoliberal cunts and have taken us to where we are now. In a way, football in the pandemic feels like a vision of the future - no fans, just TV packages and advertising. But the breakaway is not just offensive, it's insulting. Only thing I'd add is that if this goes ahead it won't be the exciting spectacle they think. Even if you are regularly in the Champions League, playing Barcelona is one of those exciting things that only happens every few years. Playing these elite teams in a never ending cycle without risk of relegation will be dull and pointless.
By the by, does anybody know if this is a more serious threat than previous attempts to get a breakaway? They look to have got the money this time.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
It is sort of making me wonder - I suppose United fans do sort of have somewhere else to go, as in FCUM. Is there any possibility of similar things happening elsewhere? Like, could City fans who just want to watch football go off to Maine Road, for instance?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
JP Morgan are behind this. Not enough hate for the American bank on this thread so far.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Not literally, it's a housing development now.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Just said similar to some mates. It's always galling to see the controlling bodies of football talk about protecting the sport against self-interest and corporate greed.
Fuck 'em. Our reactions to the news may look largely similar on the surface, but they're coming from very different places.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Don't see how that prevents us playing football. Privet hedges for goalposts
(I don't actually know for certain what a privet hedge is
)
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Oh yeah, Maine Road play at Brantingham Road now. It's like MK Dons all over again.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
As an aside, it'll be interesting to see if any current footballers at the 6 clubs voice their concerns. At United I'm thinking Rashford and Mata. Rashford is pretty secure and already has a bit of latitude when it comes to 'political' stuff. Mata is probably at the end of his United career so he'll either keep zip to get a new contract or come out and say something if he knows he's already out.
EDit: Rashford has retweeted some guff about prince philip, so maybe not.
EDit: Rashford has retweeted some guff about prince philip, so maybe not.
not-bono-ever
meh
The CL is moribund as unless you have a vested interest in the game , it’s the same lot year after year. The Former UEFA is more watchable for randoms. I have no interest in watching an invite only tournament for rich clubs. Meh
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Just seen this on the Guardian site
George Davidson emails in an interesting thought: “National government may have limited formal powers to stop any super league. But local government may have more, stronger and long forgotten powers. Football Clubs use the name of their towns and cities with the permission of the local council. If Liverpool Council decides it no longer wants Liverpool FC to bear its name, then they could withdraw that right. The club could still exist and play in the new ESL but call itself something else (Red Mersey?) but they could no longer call itself Liverpool. That would be an utterly extraordinary move but maybe even the threat would be something.”
George Davidson emails in an interesting thought: “National government may have limited formal powers to stop any super league. But local government may have more, stronger and long forgotten powers. Football Clubs use the name of their towns and cities with the permission of the local council. If Liverpool Council decides it no longer wants Liverpool FC to bear its name, then they could withdraw that right. The club could still exist and play in the new ESL but call itself something else (Red Mersey?) but they could no longer call itself Liverpool. That would be an utterly extraordinary move but maybe even the threat would be something.”
ska invita
back on the other side
Which is why I'd like to hear the likes of FIFA spell out precisely why they are against it
strung out
💩 🤣 🍆 💦 🧐 👻 🐝 🐈⬛
You could have a league with only Arsenal, Juventus, Inter and Ajax
tommers
It was... Rebekah Vardy's account
Like PES in real life. God, that would be amazing.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Oh, 'liked' before the editAs an aside, it'll be interesting to see if any current footballers at the 6 clubs voice their concerns. At United I'm thinking Rashford and Mata. Rashford is pretty secure and already has a bit of latitude when it comes to 'political' stuff. Mata is probably at the end of his United career so he'll either keep zip to get a new contract or come out and say something if he knows he's already out.
EDit: Rashford has retweeted some guff about prince philip, so maybe not.
But aye, will certainly be interesting to see if anyone currently employed by the clubs says much. As someone else said, will be interesting to see what Klopp says.
ska invita
back on the other side
Id be interested to know what the projected carbon footprint of this league would be....a lot of flights for sure.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Just how much of the "we want to be in control, and largely in possession, of the money" truth will seep through whatever romanticised, cliched tripe they come out with.
I was going to include 'faux outrage', but I doubt their rage is faux, just their stated reasons for it.
