Dr. Furface
One small step for me
It'll be even greater if they manage to persuade clubs from leagues in USA, S. America, Japan etc to join them, which to me seems like the logical way this is heading.
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
They could probably manage an intercontinental 5-a-side on one of those new generation jumbo jets. No subs bench, just a private lounge and the co-pilot handling the in flight VAR.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Do you genuinely think so? Can't see what the motivation would be for anyone, there.
That said, could see them deciding to play the matches in the likes of USA and Asia, for the usual reasons. Although obviously football is huge in S. America, I don't know if it's as lucrative in the way these clubs would want? If it is though, you know they'll chase it as hard as they can.
Is the Germany job still available?
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Solsjaer (sp?) looked like he was going to shit his pants when the interviewer pressed him for a response yesterday.Oh, 'liked' before the edit
But aye, will certainly be interesting to see if anyone currently employed by the clubs says much. As someone else said, will be interesting to see what Klopp says.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Voley
🐀
Yep.
Mind you if the Kitchen Kit Peninsular league down here follow suit we might see Mousehole and St Dennis forming a Cornish Elite Superleague
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Non football fan asks...
Between this, and the upcoming World Cup in Qatar, are any fans really going to turn their backs on the cesspit that is quite clearly “top flight” football? Or will decades of club/country/game loyalty win through in the end?
Between this, and the upcoming World Cup in Qatar, are any fans really going to turn their backs on the cesspit that is quite clearly “top flight” football? Or will decades of club/country/game loyalty win through in the end?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I couldn't see South America being interested. It would be a chance for their fans to watch their top players for once, but otherwise they have their own traditions.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Dunno, I'm certainly not planning on watching WC 2022, even though I've been watching world cups for 50 years.
Have an awful feeling my resolve will fail half way through the competition or summat. Be strong!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tell you what, i think i'll maybe support tula arsenal in future
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Mike Graham (talk radio) is in favour
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
I just don't see how a dozen or so European clubs (from only 3 countries so far) playing each other again and again would be enough. As for motivation, well $300 odd million each has been enough to persuade some of the biggest clubs already.
ska invita
back on the other side
editor
hiraethified
I stopped supporting - and giving money - to my 'big' club years ago and have never looked back. Non league football gives me what I want out of football; i.e. fun, community, freedom to wander around a ground and drink beer on the terraces and meet people.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
In a convo with some mates brought both those things up, in the sense that you hope something would happen, but the Glazers are one example (of fucking millions) where furious outrage and 'the death of the sport' eventually died away and almost everyone just got back to watching and supporting whatever was on offer. And I obviously count myself in that group too, would be ridiculous of me to claim otherwise.
Obviously the various atrocities linked to the Qatar World Cup are many magnitudes beyond simple financial greed.
Cunts are holding our sport to ransom
Yeah, tbh I'm not completely sold that the logic, even from the POV of those who want to do it, holds either. The lack of genuine competition does instinctively feel like it would stifle the interest, particularly given how much people complain about 'glorified friendlies'.
But, if they've got the best players playing against each other, and swishy production, can easily see it conning a decent chunk of us.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Genuine, non-accusatory question: where do you sit on the indirect ways most of us support 'the system'? e.g. watching games on TV, which contributes to viewing figures which increases value to advertisers who then give money to the cunts running the sport.
Or all the other satellite parts of the industry, like websites, podcasts, magazines, etc?
I haven't 'supported' a club for years, if I ever really truly did, but I still watch matches, I still click on websites (mostly BBC, tbf), I'm still contributing to football being an attractive market/asset for cunts.
the fact that the owners behind it really don't get football at all, means there is a decent chance it really is a stupid idea and won't work. I know anyone sane already thinks that but the assumption that it would make money can genuinely be wrong considering those involved are clueless
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
i grew up with the class of 92, Kevin keegan going mental, and yer man Solskjaer poking it in during the dying seconds against Bayern.
i pity the young
i pity the young
ska invita
back on the other side
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
A casual football fan writes...
I loved going to matches as a kid. Me and best mate with his dad, maybe 2 or 3 games a season. A couple down at White Hart Lane, whenever we could get tickets to the away games at Villa/Birmingham/Coventry. One of the best days I've ever had at Wembley, FA semi final '91 vs Arsenal (Is Gascoigne going to have a crack? He is you know!). Enough to cement a life-long affinity for my club, enough to mean that every weekend has (at an absolute minimum) half an eye on the bbc live text, and watching on the telly when real life isn't getting in the way.
As an adult I've long since resigned myself to being priced out of it. You even have to be a paid club member just to have the occasional chance at a casual ticket. I reckon I've been to at most 4 matches in the last 10 years - 2 at Stoke, 2 at Villa, both courtesy of season ticket holders at those clubs. But still I support them, I'm still a Spurs fan.
Yet we sacked our manager this morning and I'm struggling to even care. And since I don't have that season ticket and limitless money to pour into the club, I'm the type of supporter that the club won't give a shit whether I still follow or not.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's a question of defining 'work'. Lots of things that don't work in a footballing sense have been done to football in the last 30 years or so, but they work if they are judged by the real reason for doing them, which was to make more money for the richest clubs, leagues and players (and agents).
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hiraethified
I don't pay for any Sports TV subscription services - and never have - I only sometimes watch Match Of The Day or live football on BBC/ITV - and I usually just watch the 3-minute highlights on YouTube for the 'big' clubs.
That said, I'm sure they're still able to squeak some revenue out of me, but it's going to be absolutely miniscule and positively microscopic compared to what I'm putting into non league football (both financially and in time and effort).
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hiraethified
Do you not follow any non league teams? I never thought I'd stop supporting Cardiff City, but I just felt I was getting fleeced by the club most of the time and being told to sit down at a FA cup final was a watershed moment for me. That's when I really knew that the fans were coming a long-distant second to money making making and the game's commercial 'image.'
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hiraethified
I disagree. I'd say they really understand what top flight football has become and they know exactly how to maximise their financial assets.
