EnglishWelsh Defence League, British Campaign agin Muslim Extremist, Causuals United

[invisibleplanet]

Ulster Defence League

Just to remind everyone what happened to those that fought for Ulster against the IRA, many unnecessary lives were lost.

There is a mural in tigers bay that really sums it up for me atm with regards to the islamic extremist and the slippery road that we are heading towards should the governement and media continue to lie about the truth, prevent freedom of speech, prevent freedom of rightful protest, I seriously hope they have learned from the mistakes they made in Northern Ireland and we can avoid this from happening on the mainland.

Edited by boudicca, Sep 20 2009, 01:49 AM.

 

[audiotech]

They don't tell the truth then.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

The far-right are getting cocky now, with some anti-communist sentiments being heard on the latest demo.

at least the communists are doing something right

 

[treelover]

The far-right are getting cocky now, with some anti-communist sentiments being heard on the latest demo.

what a bizarre comment, the far right are more successful politically than the far left has ever been, for what i've read some of the young EDL hate the left because they see it defending, in their view, radical Islam,

 

[durruti02]

at least the communists are doing something right

winding this up? i think not .. the whole Islamist issue is irrelevent to creating change .. it is and always was a distraction .. and the 'communists' ( read wooly liberals) have fallen hook line and sinker for it

 

[invisibleplanet]

Yep, that's the line their peddling.

I know. That's why I wrote it down for all to see.
It's a line the BNP have been peddling for some time.

 

[invisibleplanet]

what a bizarre comment, the far right are more successful politically than the far left has ever been, for what i've read some of the young EDL hate the left because they see it defending, in their view, radical Islam,

As they no doubt would have hated the left for it's solidarity with wadical trade unionist Jews before, during and after the BUF street-based terrorism years. What makes you think the EDL are so perfectly placed for success? The fash didn't succeed in the 30s - what makes you think they can succeed today?

 

[Blagsta]

what a bizarre comment, the far right are more successful politically than the far left has ever been, for what i've read some of the young EDL hate the left because they see it defending, in their view, radical Islam,

What, ever?

 

[invisibleplanet]

What, ever?

Treelover stands with the far right. He's bound to big up his own position.

 

[butchersapron]

There's no need for those sort of smears.

 

[Blagsta]

Treelover stands with the far right. He's bound to big up his own position.

That's not true.

 

[invisibleplanet]

What is he then? A disillusioned lefty who is moving towards the right?

 

[Fedayn]

As they no doubt would have hated the left for it's solidarity with wadical trade unionist Jews during the BUF terrorism years. What makes you think the EDL are so perfectly placed for success? The fash didn't succeed in the 30s - what makes you think they can succeed today?

It depends on what you mean by 'succeeding' doesn't it? Or is it just 'black and white' ie winning power or not? The increasing racialisation of politics, race as a natural discourse in politics, 'fixing' of identity politics etc.... These are all 'defeats' for the left/working class.

 

[Fedayn]

Treelover stands with the far right. He's bound to big up his own position.

Nice smear.....

 

[invisibleplanet]

I read his criticisms of the far-left, specially re. Islam, and he sounds just like the far-right. He turns most discussions into little rants about the SWP etc that look just like the right-wingers arguments.

If he ain't a righty, then he's doing a good impression of one.

 

[butchersapron]

The usual response from you after you smear someone. Like you did with me earlier.

 

[Fedayn]

I read his criticisms of the left, specially re. Islam, and he sounds just like the right.

If he ain't a righty, then he's doing a good impression of one.

Well if you're an impression of a 'lefty' i'm not surprised he doesn't want to sound like you frankly.

 

[The39thStep]

New EDL forum

http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/uk

 

[invisibleplanet]

New EDL forum

http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/uk

Is that an entryist attempt by SIOE et al. to cream EDL membership from EDL forum?

 

[The39thStep]

Is that an entryist attempt by SIOE et al. to cream EDL membership from EDL forum?

SIOE are essentially one nutter and a dog.

 

[audiotech]

what a bizarre comment, the far right are more successful politically than the far left has ever been, for what i've read some of the young EDL hate the left because they see it defending, in their view, radical Islam,

What's bizarre about it, the NF and other groups would like to influence the EDL to be anti-communist/anti-left/anti-progressive. There are clips on YouTube of at least one nutter giving it the big 'commie scum' to anti's.

I note they're pretty silent on radical right nutjobs and their terrorism. I would have thought that a non-violent group, like the EDL claim to be, would be condemning all violence, but they're not. Some of the EDL supporters appear to revel in it.

The comments on this first video gives an insight into what a couple of bystanders think of the EDL. Wonder if that's a general feeling?

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Others haven't a clue.

 

[treelover]

Treelover stands with the far right. He's bound to big up his own position.

pretty despicable comment that, then again you are an obsessive who just attacks those who don't share your vision of a no borders nirvana

 

[Spion]

pretty despicable comment that, then again you are an obsessive who just attacks those who don't share your vision of a no borders nirvana

We can see your obsession clear enough

I've no idea what's left wing about you either, tbh

 

[treelover]

dinosaur, leave the stage

 

[Spion]

dinosaur, leave the stage

Who's the dinosaur? With your vision of a reformist socialism I'd say it's you who's had your day. AFAICT, you look back to a golden age of Labour/TUs, and it simply ain't coming back in that form.

 

[invisibleplanet]

pretty despicable comment that, then again you are an obsessive who just attacks those who don't share your vision of a no borders nirvana

I haven't mentioned borders since 2007/10.

Before that, only 23 other times, and most of the time nothing to do with borders of a nation.

 

[durruti02]

please can people ignore the troll IP .. has smeared in two days, fedayn, me and treelover (and butchers elsewhere?) and brilliantly decided EDL were to abandon Leeds demo in favour of London then within an hour switched back again!! ffs .. a troll trying to distract .. or just dumb .. but please please put on ignore .. unlike e.g. spion and mc5 who i am neither fans of, but have legitimate positions, IP shows no basis in, or history in, any sort of struggle and hence is irrelavent

 

[audiotech]

please can people ignore the troll IP .. has smeared in two days, fedayn, me and treelover (and butchers elsewhere?) and brilliantly decided EDL were to abandon Leeds demo in favour of London then within an hour switched back again!! ffs .. a troll trying to distract .. or just dumb .. but please please put on ignore .. unlike e.g. spion and mc5 who i am neither fans of, but have legitimate positions, IP shows no basis in, or history in, any sort of struggle and hence is irrelavent

Just back from the pub?

 

[durruti02]

Just back from the pub?

i am getting wiberal in my old age

 

[Davo1]

Just got back from speaking to a friend about last Saturday in Manchester.

Apart from being told that edl numbers were bumped up heavily by 200 Man City fans (suprise! suprise!), apparently someone claiming to be EDL contacted the main UAF number and tried to arrange a FIGHT! in a local car park between UAF 'hooligans' and some from the EDL as if it was a 'firm' thing.

That is just fucked up! I really think people should think what they are getting into here. Its not politics at all. Bellends wanting a ruck. Thats it, period.

Starve them of oxygen. Nothing else will work.

Watch for that Weyman Bennett tho, or he'll fackin' cut you aaaaappppp!!!!!