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I'vew just seen it over on SU in the discussion about NG and QT, its obvious that they are now a significant 'street force' and the UAF, students, etc, would have got hammered if they ahd taken the EDL on on the day.
 
btw EDL going to Leeds and Casuals United are the badge for EDL who want to stay in london .. seems like there will be a few .. but most think S4UK march will be banned
 
But then the girl predictably said the thing about 'not letting the country get turned into something it's not'. Sadly the last 50 years of depressing americanisation in all the wrong ways has already done that :(
 
I do like the point someone made on a thread recently about summer solstice, Shakespeare and so on and how half this BNP kind of types were probably ignorant of it all, it does show that the main problem is lack of education, perhaps, which draws people into a more brutallistic backward kind of nationalism, which has been mostly relativey absent from this country in the past...
 
What do you find interesting about it?

I found it interesting cos they do look more like "indie" kids. Perhaps they are just reactionaries who follow fashion, but perhaps the reactionaries got to them with an anti-establishment narrative before the left did.
 
I found it interesting cos they do look more like "indie" kids. Perhaps they are just reactionaries who follow fashion, but perhaps the reactionaries got to them with an anti-establishment narrative before the left did.

Yeah. That's what I was thinking, hence the intended-to-be-slightly-trolling SWPer comparison :D

You would think they were UAF types though looking at them, if there are 'types' who follow particular groups per se... Most skinheads I've met have been lefty ravers...
 
I found it interesting cos they do look more like "indie" kids. Perhaps they are just reactionaries who follow fashion, but perhaps the reactionaries got to them with an anti-establishment narrative before the left did.

The Emo/ Goth/ 'Metaller' thing can sometimes be incredibly right wing. When I was on the 'anti war' march in Manchester on the day they launched the attacks we when past the Grand Central on Oxford Road (the local 'metal' pub) and they all started booing and heckling. Little bastards :mad:

i remember having a argument with a load of 'metallers' about 'Napster' and the 'property rights' of artists in the late 90s and they were all defending Lars Ulrich like he was some kind of god. utterly depressing.

Those 'sub cultures' are just so conservative and nationalistic, its nothing like how I assume punk was in the seventies. Unless someone who was there can tell me different?
 
Yeah. That's what I was thinking, hence the intended-to-be-slightly-trolling SWPer comparison :D

You would think they were UAF types though looking at them, if there are 'types' who follow particular groups per se... Most skinheads I've met have been lefty ravers...


the world has gone mad i think. Indie/emo kids supporting the EDL!! Eh???

whereas people automatically assume I'M a nazi so every time i go in a dodgy pub some cunt comes up and starts the old "they come here and get EVERYTHING" lines
 
some gems in here .. though mainly nutty stuff as befits a nat forum

broken link below

http://www.nwn-for um.co.uk/sho wthre ad.php?t=25 76&page=6

Good grief! I thought we had our fair share of people with mental health issues on here before I had a look at that forum! It appears to be full of people for whom the BNP is an example of leftist political correctness:eek:
 
this from indymedia today i think sums up EDL .. can't tell who it is though .. guessing not jeff marsh .. i'll have a think on it


"EDL

08.12.2009 18:40
You think EDL operate in some sort of vacuum, that we don't talk to people, behind the scenes we talk to a great many people and once they are able to see through all the hype they agree with us.

As for the BNP, who am I to judge people, if some one says that they agree with our cause, then we give them a chance, if they step out of line we throw them out. We don't care about peoples past affiliations.
We are not connected to the BNP or any political group, EDL is EDL.

What you can't stand is that we are patriots and you don't have to a nazi or a racist to be for queen and country.

The idea that this country is white and anglo saxon is out of date, we have a multi-cultural society now and black, brown and white need to unite against political Islam and show them there is no place for them in this country.

The purpose of EDL is to spark debate and we have sparked debate and Muslims are coming out and standing up against the extremist.

Do you really believe that the threat by Choudary is all we march against, how about the Saudi government pouring millions of pounds into mosque building and then staffing them with extremists, how about the setting up of faith schools that teach this extreme version of Islam, subverting our young men into becoming suicide bombers.

You consider your selves working class but you are not, we are the working class and we reflect the opinions and concerns of the working class.
Your ideology is out of date, dead in the water, there will not be a workers revolution in this country because your solution is fascist but your mind is closed to this.

As for using your forum as a playground, you infiltrate our forums all the time, not one word of abuse have I given you all, I have ignored the name calling and have simply put a point of view. Why, because I believe in debate.

We will force the government to act, have no doubt about that. We are united, you can't stop us, you can only react and that's only because we give you the chance to react by telling you when and where our next demo is, this we will change in the near future. One peaceful demo is all we'll need for people to see who the violent ones are.

Arthur "
 
Good grief! I thought we had our fair share of people with mental health issues on here before I had a look at that forum! It appears to be full of people for whom the BNP is an example of leftist political correctness:eek:

The jihadist forums are equally bonkers mind.
 
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