EnglishWelsh Defence League, British Campaign agin Muslim Extremist, Causuals United

[The39thStep]

Just got back from speaking to a friend about last Saturday in Manchester.

Apart from being told that edl numbers were bumped up heavily by 200 Man City fans (suprise! suprise!), apparently someone claiming to be EDL contacted the main UAF number and tried to arrange a FIGHT! in a local car park between UAF 'hooligans' and some from the EDL as if it was a 'firm' thing.

That is just fucked up! I really think people should think what they are getting into here. Its not politics at all. Bellends wanting a ruck. Thats it, period.

Starve them of oxygen. Nothing else will work.

Watch for that Weyman Bennett tho, or he'll fackin' cut you aaaaappppp!!!!!

I know quite a few City lads who have ben involved for years and whilst I am not saying that no City supporters were there I haven't picked up anything from them regarding turning out for the EDL. I haven't seen them since the demo but I will ask.Why do you say surprise surprise? btw.

The supposed phone call from EDL to UAF was also claimed by others to be ANTIFA to EDL.

 

[Davo1]

I know quite a few City lads who have ben involved for years and whilst I am not saying that no City supporters were there I haven't picked up anything from them regarding turning out for the EDL. I haven't seen them since the demo but I will ask.Why do you say surprise surprise? btw.

The supposed phone call from EDL to UAF was also claimed by others to be ANTIFA to EDL.

My grapevine is obviously rotten. Still shows that its all a load of old bollocks tho. I said city fans 'cause of the historic connections with the NF (don't know any city fans myself so shouldn't really comment), stupid really.

apologies to city fans. This is all really odd tho. Uaf vs Edl in a car park ffs!!!!

My sectarian mind boggles....

 

[Spion]

please can people ignore the troll IP .. has smeared in two days, fedayn, me and treelover (and butchers elsewhere?) and brilliantly decided EDL were to abandon Leeds demo in favour of London then within an hour switched back again!! ffs

Oh, give over. Man up and deal with the things that IP says instead of trying to close down debate. And the speculation (which is all it ever really was) about the Choudhary thing in London is of genuine interest - if the EDL is true to its founding causes they'll be torn over what to do on the 31st

 

[butchersapron]

"man up" - welcome to TV world. You're a late 40 plus white twat, telling people who reject the approach of smearing opponents as racist to "man up"?

 

[butchersapron]

"man up"

 

[butchersapron]

"man up" you little bitches

 

[DeepStoat]

'Man up'?

What does that mean?

 

[butchersapron]

It means someone gets their politics from TV.

 

[butchersapron]

"man up"

Fucking hell.

 

[Fedayn]

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Treelover stands with the far right. He's bound to big up his own position.

that is rubbish.

 

[butchersapron]

It is, and the sort of smear that's becoming too common, on here and in real life. These things cannot be let past.

 

[invisibleplanet]

Oh, give over. Man up and deal with the things that IP says instead of trying to close down debate. And the speculation (which is all it ever really was) about the Choudhary thing in London is of genuine interest - if the EDL is true to its founding causes they'll be torn over what to do on the 31st

Well afaik, there is also Paul Ray's 'St. George' EDL division, which he runs, whereas Luton division are calling the shots with the EDL 'tour of Britain' itself, so some aspect of the EDL will likely be present in both London (Paul Ray) and Leeds (led by Luton EDL).

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

It is, and the sort of smear that's becoming too common, on here and in real life. These things cannot be let past.

i disagree with him on all sorts of things, but to simply resort to stereotypical labels as a means of discussion is pretty poor tbh. wouldn't know what happens on here meanwhile, too busy up trees this evening.....

 

[Spion]

i disagree with him on all sorts of things, but to simply resort to stereotypical labels as a means of discussion is pretty poor tbh. wouldn't know what happens on here meanwhile, too busy up trees this evening.....

I wouldn't bother yourself too much. As a remark it's not that unusual for round here. Most of us have had worse than this levelled against them. It's worth asking yourself why this smear is so heinous compared to D02's suggestion that posters put IP on ignore, effectively campaigning for them to be silenced.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

it isn't so heinous, it's just lazy.....

 

[butchersapron]

I wouldn't bother yourself too much. As a remark it's not that unusual for round here. Most of us have had worse than this levelled against them. It's worth asking yourself why this smear is so heinous compared to D02's suggestion that posters put IP on ignore, effectively campaigning for them to be silenced.

If you're going to play at mendacity then smearing people as far-right is to call for them to be physically attacked.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

and that's not far from the truth either tbh.

 

[butchersapron]

I wouldn't bother yourself too much. As a remark it's not that unusual for round here. Most of us have had worse than this levelled against them. It's worth asking yourself why this smear is so heinous compared to D02's suggestion that posters put IP on ignore, effectively campaigning for them to be silenced.

Yes, actually it is worth asking why this particular smear is so disgusting. Have a think about why whilst you're manning up and other stuff.

 

[Spion]

it isn't so heinous, it's just lazy.....

It's not difficult to form that impression if you follow things on here, tho I don't think it's really the case

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

It's not difficult to form that impression if you follow things on here, tho I don't think it's really the case

that makes very little sense if you read it more than once tbh. let's move on eh?

 

[Spion]

Yes, actually it is worth asking why this particular smear is so disgusting.

I know. It's disgusting because someone said something howwid about your fwiend?

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, that's what calling someone a sympathiser with racism and fascism is and that's why i'm against that sort of thing.

 

[butchersapron]

I know. It's disgusting because someone said something howwid about your fwiend?

Is this (which would be embarassing for a 5 year old) an example of manning up btw?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Just found out SIOE are planning another demonstration outside the Harrow Mosque on 13th December if they can get 2000 confirmed attendees.

 

[revlon]

Just found out SIOE are planning another demonstration outside the Harrow Mosque on 13th December if they can get 2000 confirmed attendees.

alan lake, who seems to be the edl stategist (least ways they seem to be following his methodology), i think will advise the edl not to put their name to this and to give it a wide berth. In Harrow they got absolutely slaughtered by the local population, nothing to gain apart from saving face, and even then they'd have to have a lot stronger presense.

Also what's not being discussed is though the edl are not a fascist group, the fascists within it, and the far right factions watching enviously from the sidelines, have seen what can be done and how, are obviously thinking about their abilities to replicate it from a white nationalist perspective. It'd be intresting to see if any far right group calls an anti-islam demo and what the edl response would be.

One particluar long term route is that lake will become the spokesman for 'anti-islamist movement' and the edl will be transformed into his bodyguards.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

One particluar long term route is that lake will become the spokesman for 'anti-islamist movement' and the edl will be transformed into his bodyguards.

This isn't the Netherlands.

 

[revlon]

lake's got his agenda. He wants to be more public and outspoken about islam but knows he can't do it without some form of physical backup. No difficult to know what role he sees for the edl.

 

[The39thStep]

"man up" you little bitches

That's the sort of language In Bloom normally uses

 

[invisibleplanet]

SIOE are essentially one nutter and a dog.

But planning another Harrow Mosque demo on 13th December and more prominent narrative on that 4freedom forum (along with the EDL St. George division, so altogether a more fundy Christian rightwing flavour).