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English Channel disaster
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Everyone is a returner here. Because new posters are rare. And most new people are a returner.
Welcome, anyway.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
So many of the posters we would welcome back are dead
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
Backlash after Priti Patel rebukes media over Channel ‘migrants’ label
Home secretary criticises ‘inappropriate language’, prompting accusations of hypocrisy
For sheer nerve Patel takes some beating.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh it's only in that way that this government is worldbeatingBacklash after Priti Patel rebukes media over Channel ‘migrants’ label
Home secretary criticises ‘inappropriate language’, prompting accusations of hypocrisywww.theguardian.com
For sheer nerve Patel takes some beating.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
Indeed it is.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Choni, rhymes with Tony.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
Choni? Is that what it is? I just remember it phonetically, I didnt ask them to spell it. I was talking to them in French also, they had a genuine french accent, they must have been there for a long while.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Choni bashee, the fuller version... mind you, that's Iraqi Kurdish and there are pronunciation differences with Turkish, etc variants.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
You know your stuff.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Spass.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
An Iraqi Kurdish anarcho-communist was best man at my first wedding!
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Not yet, sadly.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
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sparkybird
ask the bird...
Reading this thread makes me so angry and sad. moomoo mentioned a phone credit donation organisation for refugees. I think it's this one. Phone Credit for Refugees
I've been donating a little every month and a bit extra when I can. It's not much but it can enable someone to make contact with family to tell them they are ok in these terrible times
I've been donating a little every month and a bit extra when I can. It's not much but it can enable someone to make contact with family to tell them they are ok in these terrible times
gosub
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Broadsheets not so much, Telegraph went with "Angish of Channel Migrant's Husband". and this quite early on a Times piece 'Although Britain’s “generous” benefits system is often blamed, the £39.63 weekly allowance is less benevolent for asylum seekers than in France, where they are given £43.50 per week and can start applying for work after six months...
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
If housed in a hotel they actually get a flush 8 pounds a week - only if they somehow get community shelter (I assume this means with relatives mostly) do they get 40 quid
So the headline is making shit up anyway.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Looking like we have an ongoing cross-channel cock-waving contest going on. Hopefully it means the immediate problem will be addressed by France suspending the Le Touquet agreement so that asylum seekers will be able to cross the channel by foot. But it's bound to lead to a pretty grim media panic in the UK.
How anyone can say asylum seekers have an easy time is beyond me. Our system is utterly mindblowingly horrific and toxic once they actually arrive. Many spend years in abject poverty with no hope and no chance of earning any money due to the obnoxiously antisocial, hateful rules. I'm certain those rules are an attempt to make things seem as inhumane and hostile as many of the countries they've fled from.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
If they're all getting £40 a week plus four star hotels, how come there's loads kipping on the streets? My ex volunteers at the Xmas shelters and a large proportion of those who turn up are refugees/asylum seekers.
Is it down to the ID Card thing? I know opening a bank account in France is a massive undertaking. Britain is not easy but still.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Most of the asylum seekers who arrive in France stay there, and they are given ID cards. Think it is approaching half a quarter of a million this year. Something like 20,000 have crossed the channel. I don't know all of their reasons, but I would guess a fair proportion have family or friends already in the UK.
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Even if the system was more generous, I don't think people are going to be travelling thousands of miles in terrible conditions then risking their lives trying to cross the channel in a dinghy or clinging to a lorry or whatever because they're lazy skivers are they.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Or who speak (some) English, but not French. It's probably fair to say, as someone already has, that at least part of this will be due to our own colonial influences in the past. I think we need to own that.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I've often thought that people who have demonstrated the commitment and initiative to get themselves here should be snapped up by employers who could well use those attributes in their employees. Only, of course, our employment culture has steadily morphed towards one where obedience to stupid rules, and an unwillingness to say "Oi, no, that's out of order" are far more important that trivialities like initiative.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
According to the figures in the link below, France took in 436,100 up to 2020, the UK just 132,349.
Raheem
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Think those are the numbers of people living in each country with refugee status, so not including asylum seekers or former refugees who have either gained naturalisation or left the country. Just for the sake of saying.According to the figures in the link below, France took in 436,100 up to 2020, the UK just 132,349.
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