English Channel disaster

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's a good idea, to break the evil people smuggling networks we muster a fleet of little ships, sail them to Dunkirk and pick up every asylum seeker and bring them back to Blighty free of charge, truly the Dunkirk Spirit they keep banging on about.

No man, woman or child shall be left behind!

 

[Serge Forward]

Always wondered about the etymology of "gullible".

You know, if you say the word "gullible" really really slowly, at a loud volume, and preferably on a public place, it sounds like you're saying "yoghurt"

 

[teqniq]

Blimey, the Torygraph no less:

The best way to beat the Channel traffickers is to let refugees enter the UK legally

Creating formal routes for migrants to come to Britain is the best way to undermine demand for people smuggling

www.telegraph.co.uk

E2a: Meanwhile Johnson talks about 'pushback' going ahead:

‘Pushback’ of refugee boats will go ahead despite drownings, Boris Johnson vows

Tactic was thrown into doubt by complex rules – while MPs and peers warn of more tragedies to come

www.independent.co.uk

 

[gosub]

It's a good idea, to break the evil people smuggling networks we muster a fleet of little ships, sail them to Dunkirk and pick up every asylum seeker and bring them back to Blighty free of charge, truly the Dunkirk Spirit they keep banging on about.

No man, woman or child shall be left behind!

Or

A bunch of Berets Verts joy ride a ferry over, dock it and leave by other means...
Business model of people smugglers gone in one foul swoop.

 

[ska invita]

attacks (including funding boycotts etc) on lifeboats has to be seen in the context of europe-wide persecution on those helping migrants <itself a state-backed and state-promoted strategy. Useful roundup of that here

Europe: Punishing compassion: Solidarity on trial in Fortress Europe - Amnesty International

In recent years, human rights defenders and civil society organizations that have helped refugees and migrants have been subjected to unfound criminal proceedings, undue restrictions of their activities, intimidation, harassment, and smear campaigns in several European countries. This report...

www.amnesty.org

have seen the point made that the Tories are explicitly copying strategies employed by Mediterranean states in doing this

 

[Spymaster]

attacks (including funding boycotts etc) on lifeboats has to be seen in the context of europe-wide persecution on those helping migrants <itself a state-backed and state-promoted strategy. Useful roundup of that here

Europe: Punishing compassion: Solidarity on trial in Fortress Europe - Amnesty International

In recent years, human rights defenders and civil society organizations that have helped refugees and migrants have been subjected to unfound criminal proceedings, undue restrictions of their activities, intimidation, harassment, and smear campaigns in several European countries. This report...

www.amnesty.org

have seen the point made that the Tories are explicitly copying strategies employed by Mediterranean states in doing this

Ah, right.

So this IS bollocks then:

... the action of the coastguard in refusing the sos call.

 

[LDC]

Sorry, but I am finding the idea of the whole 'dump fish into the sea to attract seagulls to force the RNLI to have to abandon the launch' just hysterically funny.

 

[existentialist]

Sorry, but I am finding the idea of the whole 'dump fish into the sea to attract seagulls to force the RNLI to have to abandon the launch' just hysterically funny.

When one has already decided which conclusion one wants to reach, the contortions necessary to bend reality to that conclusion are always amusing. Or would be, if it wasn't all quite so nasty.

 

[little_legs]

dp

 

[little_legs]

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Ah, right.

So this IS bollocks then:

That refers to the 27 drowned who may or may not have tried to call the UK coastguard and having may or may not having done so, may or may not have been told to contact the French authorities.

The story fits the narrative of the UK wishing refugees dead. It doesn't hold tight in so much as the UK coastguard would never say that, if they thought they were under the jurisdiction of the French they would take the details and pass it on to the French. Indeed Falmouth Coastguard is famous for coordinating rescues literally all over the planet. Further, HM Coastguard did mount an emergency response to these poor sods.

My best guess would be HM Coastguard was contacted and they said they would contact the French whilst mounting a rescue themselves and it has morphed in to the story being bandied around.

 

[Spymaster]

Sorry, but I am finding the idea of the whole 'dump fish into the sea to attract seagulls to force the RNLI to have to abandon the launch' just hysterically funny.

Fabulous isn't it?

If you watch the video, at 36 seconds, the bloke (circled, so you don't miss him!) dumps the fish in the water after the lifeboat has launched, and someone behind the camera calls him a twat.

 

[MickiQ]

Fabulous isn't it?

If you watch the video, at 36 seconds, the bloke (circled, so you don't miss him!) dumps the fish in the water after the lifeboat has launched, and someone behind the camera calls him a twat.

Also not answering a critical question, Were the fish alive or dead at the point they were tossed back into the sea, if they were the latter then putting them back into the sea seems kind of pointless

 

[cupid_stunt]

Also not answering a critical question, Were the fish alive or dead at the point they were tossed back into the sea, if they were the latter then putting them back into the sea seems kind of pointless

Small fish are normally tossed back into the sea, the fresh fish stalls on the beach here, will dump fish guts & other bits on the beach, and the seagulls will have the lot within a couple of minutes.

 

[LDC]

Also not answering a critical question, Were the fish alive or dead at the point they were tossed back into the sea, if they were the latter then putting them back into the sea seems kind of pointless

Dead, or near enough. Food for the seagulls and other fish, better than sticking them in the bin. And not pointless if it's part of a well thought through Insulate Britain style 'block the Channel with seagulls' grand plan.

 

[Spymaster]

Dead, or near enough. Food for the seagulls and other fish, better than sticking them in the bin. And not pointless if it's part of a well thought through Insulate Britain style 'block the Channel with seagulls' grand plan.

The RAF are often credited with preventing a German invasion of England, as a result of the Battle of Britain.

The truth is that the Nazi High Command took one look at the Hastings seagulls, thought "fuck that", and invaded Russia instead.

 

[MickiQ]

Small fish are normally tossed back into the sea, the fresh fish stalls on the beach here, will dump fish guts & other bits on the beach, and the seagulls will have the lot within a couple of minutes.

Is this some coast dweller foible then? so why when we visit the seaside we get told off for feeding the fuckers?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Is this some coast dweller foible then?

Just a way of getting shot of waste, I got friendly with 'Pete the Fish' that used to run one of the stalls on Worthing's beach, I was chatting to him one day, when he emptied a bucket of fish waste on the beach, just a couple of yards from the stall, and hundreds of bastard gulls swarmed from near by rooftops to fight for food, it was fucking terrifying, like something from Hitchcock's 'The Birds' film.

From then on, I never again hang around for a chat after buying fish, leaving the socializing to the pub instead.

so why when we visit the seaside we get told off for feeding the fuckers?

By who?

 

[Spymaster]

Is this some coast dweller foible then? so why when we visit the seaside we get told off for feeding the fuckers?

By-catch.

Fisherman aren't allowed to sell fish that are too small or of certain (protected) species, although they do catch some unintentionally. They have to throw them back, dead or alive, by law.

 

[MickiQ]

Just a way of getting shot of waste, I got friendly with 'Pete the Fish' that used to run one of the stalls on Worthing's beach, I was chatting to him one day, when he emptied a bucket of fish waste on the beach, just a couple of yards from the stall, and hundreds of bastard gulls swarmed from near by rooftops to fight for food, it was fucking terrifying, like something from Hitchcock's 'The Birds' film.

From then on, I never again hang around for a chat after buying fish, leaving the socializing to the pub instead.



By who?

There's signs everywhere "Do Not Feed The Gulls" unless Worthing is the one town that lacks such

 

[cupid_stunt]

There's signs everywhere "Do Not Feed The Gulls" unless Worthing is the one town that lacks such

I know some places display such signs, but not here, unless that has changed recently, I don't often walk along the prom in the town, preferring the path on the edge of the borough & over the border into the Arun district council area, where you can avoid the bloody day-trippers feeding the fucking anti-social psychotic airborne scumbags.

 

[LDC]

Just a way of getting shot of waste, I got friendly with 'Pete the Fish' that used to run one of the stalls on Worthing's beach, I was chatting to him one day, when he emptied a bucket of fish waste on the beach, just a couple of yards from the stall, and hundreds of bastard gulls swarmed from near by rooftops to fight for food, it was fucking terrifying, like something from Hitchcock's 'The Birds' film.

From then on, I never again hang around for a chat after buying fish, leaving the socializing to the pub instead.



By who?

You assumed it was fish waste, but with a name like 'Pete the fish' he might have been disposing of the remains of rival fish stall holder enemies. The seaside equivalent of a sty of hungry pigs.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You assumed it was fish waste, but with a name like 'Pete the fish' he might have been disposing of the remains of rival fish stall holder enemies. The seaside equivalent of a sty of hungry pigs.

Glasgow ice-cream van wars have nothing on the Worthing's cockle mongers' feud.

 

[LDC]

They've got the mussel to back it up.

 

[cupid_stunt]

You assumed it was fish waste, but with a name like 'Pete the fish' he might have been disposing of the remains of rival fish stall holder enemies. The seaside equivalent of a sty of hungry pigs.

I trust 'Pete the fish', but I am always nervous about my barbers, 'Sweeney Todd's', which is actually inside the big Tesco store, which brings the fear of ending up in the cheap 'value' range of pies.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Glasgow ice-cream van wars have nothing on the Worthing's cockle mongers' feud.

You have to watch out for the Codfather.

 

[ddraig]

Great thread for bants, well done all