London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Interesting.
England v Germany
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ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
It's the age old England world cup story of hype versus reality. The fact is that England don't have a team of world beaters and they don't have a team of donkeys. They have a team that is, for once, fairly evenly matched with any of the favourites for the tournament. They have a manager who isn't a footballing genius the like of which we have never before see, and who isn't a useless turnip, he's just one of the best coaches in the world.
The trouble is we want to see 90 minutes of MotD highlights as every England game, and we will never get it. So it's almost always a let down. Especially in the early games when there isn't that much drama and tension.
I still see England as being capable of beating anyone in the competition. Including Germany, Brazil and Spain. They could also be turned over by any side left in after the group stages. As could everyone else. That's generally what people mean by England being amongst the favourites. Not that they will be able to slaughter most of the teams they face and only have difficulty with the other favourites, but that there is no team in the competition that clearly outclasses them.
The trouble is we want to see 90 minutes of MotD highlights as every England game, and we will never get it. So it's almost always a let down. Especially in the early games when there isn't that much drama and tension.
I still see England as being capable of beating anyone in the competition. Including Germany, Brazil and Spain. They could also be turned over by any side left in after the group stages. As could everyone else. That's generally what people mean by England being amongst the favourites. Not that they will be able to slaughter most of the teams they face and only have difficulty with the other favourites, but that there is no team in the competition that clearly outclasses them.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
You reckon? What about Argentina? They've probably got more top forwards in their squad than England have had in their whole history.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
eric - we don't have a 'team' at all.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
But look vunerable at the back. Yes they have been impressive but they haven't played anyone particularly good yet.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah but neither have England and they've looked far from impressive.
Agree though, the Argies could do with a Passarella or Ruggeri or somebody at the back. The goalie is not great either.
Still, though, the firepower is fucking phenomenal.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Did you watch any of Argentina's games in qualifying? They are capable of some brilliant football. They are also capable of running around like headless chickens hoping that somebody else will have to do the defending.
If there's any team that stands out it's Brazil, though I'm not sure the current line up have enough creativity to win against a good defence.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah I watched all their qualifying games. To be honest, it was only Bolivia when they looked clueless, and that was one of Diego's earliest games - before Bilardo was appointed as assistant too iirc - and anyway, Bolivia is a weird one, what with games being played level to the moon. Was dire though.
Brasil have looked shit tbh. Obviously they are capable but they've yet to demonstrate it.
Shreddy
Truth Through Character
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
As a London Italian (so no bias there), and in response to the first post of this thread asking whether Italians would support England, I will say, yes definitely they will, because of Capello. I feel it's all coming good for England. Germany - Argentina - Spain/Portugal - Brazil/Holland.
One way or another, lots of scores to settle. Capello will have no trouble motivating them from here on in.
If it's true, as some doctor mentioned in Times that too much altitude training may have contributed to England's sluggish start, I expect them now to start to play the high tempo, Premiership-like style that very few teams can deal with when it's functioning well and when (not if) Rooney clicks.
Rooney, as SAF has often said, is a confidence player. He goes for a spell without a goal, then when he gets one, everything he touches turns to goals!
Despite the xenophobia exhibited by some in England, and despite some of the predictable anti-italian comments, I'm happy to see Capello dig the team out of their self-destructive mentality.
Brian Reade (nearly always spot on in his football analysis), had this to say about Terry and Capello.
As spot on a description of the genius that is Capello.
Of course it could all go horribly wrong tomorrow.
But I get the feeling this is fated.
An Italian leads England to glory (or maybe a loss in the final to Holland). In South Africa, where the English/Dutch have their own questionable history.
Loving the dark irony of that possibility
Forza Capello! Forza Inghilterra!
My ladyfriend is Italian. She had written Italy's chances off from the start, whilst supporting Italy she was going mad fer England when I watched matches with her in the pub. She has been here 8 years. She was telling me all her Italian mates living in London are behind England. Result.
Shreddy
Truth Through Character
Naked pics please. Otherwise it's not true.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
So . . . . here we are then: England vs. Germany in the World Cup. Today.
Whatever happens, it's one you'll carry for decades to come.
Whatever happens, it's one you'll carry for decades to come.
Flavour
hang the bankers
The Twilight Saga is coming to England? Makes sense really.
Obnoxiousness
>-->))).>
I had a dream last night.
England scored twice in the first half and then conceded a penalty in the second half. FT score England 2 - 1 Germany.
Then when the full time whistle went, thousands of Michael Jackson impersonators invaded the pitch wearing Nazi uniforms, who eventually floated off on the wind using Mary Poppinsesque umbrellas. Rooney and Lampard then sparked up a barbecue on the centre spot with sausages and burgers, while Capello sang Heroes in Italian, accompanied by a string quartet.
England scored twice in the first half and then conceded a penalty in the second half. FT score England 2 - 1 Germany.
Then when the full time whistle went, thousands of Michael Jackson impersonators invaded the pitch wearing Nazi uniforms, who eventually floated off on the wind using Mary Poppinsesque umbrellas. Rooney and Lampard then sparked up a barbecue on the centre spot with sausages and burgers, while Capello sang Heroes in Italian, accompanied by a string quartet.
Steel Icarus
we move
Steel Icarus
we move
Is it bad that I dont have too much faith here? I'm supporting, but I just know this will be child's play for Germany.
I just hope England win, whatever it takes. Or if Germany win, it's because they were better at football not penalties, or because someone handballed it, or Rooney stamped on someone's crackers.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Is it bad that I dont have too much faith here? I'm supporting, but I just know this will be child's play for Germany.
I feel exactly the reverse. I want Germany to win but I think England will huff, puff and bruise their way past them.
I'm surprised that the odds are so even. This is an established England team whereas half the German team are just out of U21s. I fear it;s come too early for the Ozil generation.
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
I believe the phrase is "you can never discount the germans."
big eejit
She looks like Alan Gilzean
Tell that to Aldi and Lidl.
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
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