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England v Algeria

Gingerman said:
Apparently Algeria's manager held a private screening of The Battle of Algiers for his team before yesterdays match,what filum should Capello show the England team before Wednesdays match? :hmm:
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Anything starring Mickey Rooney. Especially those 1970's disaster flicks...
 
WSAG's take on the defeat:

Let’s ignore the fact that he looks increasingly like an artist’s impression of a hairy Heston Blumenthal, it appears that the FA are paying £6 million a year to an aged Italian coach whose style looks horribly out-of-date. All you ever hear him talk about, and the players, is ‘pressing the ball earlier’.
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:D
 
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Only David James had anything to smile about.
 
Really, you lot make me laugh.

Of cause England are going to play like a sack of potatoes when they've got so many Spuds in the team.

B'Jesus :rolleyes:

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Gingerman said:
Apparently Algeria's manager held a private screening of The Battle of Algiers for his team before yesterdays match,what filum should Capello show the England team before Wednesdays match? :hmm:
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Dunkirk. Self styled superpower suffers crushing defeat due to piss poor leadership and makes desperate bid to evacuate battered egos. No help from the French this time I fear.
 
Idaho said:
Yeah - I'd go along with all of that except perhaps the not being technically great. Most of them are certainly technically good at least, they show that each week in the Premiership. Maybe what makes you great is to be technically good but able to take the pressure. We've got the football equivalent of a team of Mark Ramprakash's.
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I'm not so sure re technical ability though. It's a cleche but the type of game played in the Premiership is about pace, quick passing and breaking. As individuals the England players aren't used to playing in situations where keeping the ball is paramount. When England play well IMO, they're playing fast and pinging it around to each other. They shine when the opposition has a similar MO. When that isn't possible, it breaks down. There are no gear changes it seems.

I don't even blame the players this time. Forget all this keeping them held up in hotels, no WAGS, no Play Stations. No getting down from the dinner table til everyone's finished. Too technical. Too stifling, too much management bullshit. I never expected England to win the World Cup. The media hype is always embarrasing. But at least a game where they look like they're doing something they once enjoyed doing...
 
Fabio Capello was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket car park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping. He stopped and asked, "Can you manage dear?" To which the old lady replied, "No way. You got yourself into this mess, don't ask me to sort it out!" :D
 
Every England performance in the World Cup has been more or less the same since the 1980s. They go into the competition hugely over-hyped, and usually end up in a group that contains supposedly much inferior opposition. They play OK or poorly, get panned in the press but just about scrape through to the knockout stages, where they actually play quite well and win one or two games then lose. But they don't lose because the team aren't good enough, of course, there's a scapegoat or penalties are so unfair blah blah blah. And repeat in 4 years.
 
xenon said:
I'm not so sure re technical ability though. It's a cleche but the type of game played in the Premiership is about pace, quick passing and breaking. As individuals the England players aren't used to playing in situations where keeping the ball is paramount. When England play well IMO, they're playing fast and pinging it around to each other. They shine when the opposition has a similar MO. When that isn't possible, it breaks down. There are no gear changes it seems.
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I don't believe that. The style of play in the Premiership is effective. It wins more than it's fair share of European matches.
 
Gingerman said:
Fabio Capello was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket car park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping. He stopped and asked, "Can you manage dear?" To which the old lady replied, "No way. You got yourself into this mess, don't ask me to sort it out!" :D
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I like it :)

Tonystoke in the Guardian's CiF World Cup thread about Fabio finally reveals what the problem is;



There is a breaking news story coming out of South Africa that I can exclusively reveal.

The player purporting to be Wayne Rooney is in fact his twin brother Dwayne.
Wayne and Dwayne are identical in every way; physically, temperamentally, and both play football. The only difference is that, unlike his illustrious brother, Dwayne has no talent.

Dwayne plays midfield for Lacey Wanderers in the Liverpool and District Sunday league. During the week he works as a delivery van driver around the north west of England.

The plan, hatched by Sir Alex, was that after a hard season and a spate of recent injuries Wayne would take an extended sabbatical with Coleen and the baby, missing England's group stage matches and then re-joining the team in the knock out stage. When the FA were introduced to Dwayne they began to see the merit of the idea, after all the group matches were such a formality the team would win easily, even without their star player. Fabio Capello was against it, but after some heavy persuasion from the FA he reluctantly agreed.
So while Wayne relaxes in a secluded luxury villa in Spain his twin brother toils away in the England team.

Dwayne really doesn’t understand why he is getting such negative comments; he thinks he's playing well. Initially he was in awe of the rest of the England team, particularly his heroes like Stevie G and Lamps, but after playing in the team a couple of times he really doesn’t see much difference between them and his Lacey Wanderers team mates. And as for Emile Heskey, well nice guy and all, but he reckons big Frank Sidebottom, Lacey’s star striker would definitely have netted a few goals by now.

Apparently the FA are now having problems persuading Wayne to re-join the team, he’s liking his RAR too much, and anyway, as Sir Alex said, England don’t pay his wages. Meanwhile Dwayne is now getting seriously home sick, he misses the camaraderie of his old team mates, like sinking a few pints and having a laugh with Frank and the boys after the match.

Lately he’s noticed Mr Cappello wandering around the camp muttering to himself in Italian.

Dwayne reckons he’s ready to go home too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jun/20/world-cup-fabio-capello

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Kaka Tim said:
Did you listen to the link?

he sounded very pissed off and sarcastic when talking about capello's selection policy.
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Apparently he wasn't and surprised it was taken that way. Quite an interesting, longer interview with him available here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/sport/football/index.shtml?FeedItem=5851&Play=true

When I heard the original interview, I felt it was more James just stating that he wasn't aware of the comment rather than being annoyed at it. I think it may be because he comes across as a deadly serious person that it may have come across to some as if he was angry with the comments.
 
Maltin said:
When I heard the original interview, I felt it was more James just stating that he wasn't aware of the comment rather than being annoyed at it.
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I thought similiar when I first heard it. In fact, if there was any irritation in his voice I thought it was aimed at the reporter (was it Gabby Logan?) who he might have thought was stirring a little bit. I get the impression James doesn't have much time for that sort of thing and is quick enough to know whent it's going on.
 
If we are dragging old favourites out of retirement.

Capello sends Stuart Pearce off to watch the Dutch training to see what they are doing that works so well. When he returns he reports that all they did was get 11 dustbins out on to the pitch and then spend the next couple of hours dribbling and passing around them. So Capello tells him to set up a training session the next morning doing precisely the same thing.

The following morning as Capello is working on his tactical masterplan for the Slovenia game, Sturat Pearce comes into his room in tears. Capello asks what's wrong. "It's the training session, boss" Pearce tells him.

"Did you put the dustbins on the pitch?" Capello asks him.

"Yes, boss"

"Did you get the players dribbling and passing around them?"

"Yes, boss"

"So what's the problem?"

"The dustbins are winning four nil."
 
What's pink and goes on a prick?

A condom.

What's blue and goes on a prick?

A blue condom.

What's red and goes on a prick?

A red condom.

What's white and goes on a prick?

An England shirt.

I'm here all week.
 
Paul Russell said:
Every England performance in the World Cup has been more or less the same since the 1980s. They go into the competition hugely over-hyped, and usually end up in a group that contains supposedly much inferior opposition. They play OK or poorly, get panned in the press but just about scrape through to the knockout stages, where they actually play quite well and win one or two games then lose. But they don't lose because the team aren't good enough, of course, there's a scapegoat or penalties are so unfair blah blah blah. And repeat in 4 years.
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Except that is not true is it?

1982 - started brightly but failed to win crucial games in secound group stage.
1986 - bad start, but then found form for the last three games. Lost in q-finals due to 'hand of god' etc.
1990 - mediocre start but got steadily better. lost on penalties after playing out of their skins against germany. Best post 1966 england team in terms of performances and sucess.
1994 - failed to quilaify.
1998 - mixed performance in group stage. exit on penalties in second round against argnetina after pretty decent effort by ten men. Team was probably one of the better ones in the world cup but never really got chance to show it.
2002 - workman like, over cautious Svengland look ok but dull in group stage, efficicent against a poor danish side then dont turn up against a good - but not brilliant - brazil and go out with a whimper.
2006 - england even more boring and employ an unfit rooney to lead the line. Presure gets too much for mr petualnt spudface and he gets sent off against portugal. England grind their way to a penalty shoot out - which they lose.
2010 - so far england have progressed from mediocre to utter toilet. Might scrape into second round where probable humiliation awaits -

1986 and 1990 england played good football and did pretty well.
1998 was a curates egg.
1998 and 2006 - mediocre.

So the last two and this present world cup england have been medicore to shit, played dull football and have thoroughly deserved their early exits.
This despite the 'modernisation' of the game and the glories of the premiership - discuss ....
 
chieftain said:
Young and gullible, the frustration of never playing in international tournaments must get to them more and more as they mature.
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Whereas leaving international tournaments early to be subjected to the vilification of a media and public harbouring unrealistic expectations fermented by rabid jingoism and an insular mentality must be so rewarding for the little tykes.
 
Proper Tidy said:
Whereas leaving international tournaments early to be subjected to the vilification of a media and public harbouring unrealistic expectations fermented by rabid jingoism and an insular mentality must be so rewarding for the little tykes.
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The South Wales Echo might well do a job on the Welsh national team but we'll never know.
 
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