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The other week I noticed a guy driving along without his seatbelt, never really paid attention before, but now I have I'm genuinely shocked at how many people regularly drive without one. I thought this was one of those things that everyone just did now but as I've started to pay attention I would estimate up to about 30% don't bother.

I work with a paramedic who resolutely refuses to wear a seatbelt, he plugs it in behind him and sits on it so the alarm doesn’t go off.
 
You are the driver. I think it's your licence should you, the driver get points for this.
Mrs Tag still tells me the car won't move until I put my seat belt on. A paramedic you would have thought, would know better.
 
I work with a paramedic who resolutely refuses to wear a seatbelt, he plugs it in behind him and sits on it so the alarm doesn’t go off.

Bloody hell :eek:

Honestly, if I was the driver I'd insist they put it on, if I was the passenger I'd refuse to get in the van ever again with that person. How do they get away with it? Does nobody raise it, anywhere? If not, that's actually really worrying!
 
Paramedics don't have to wear seatbelts do they? when they're on the job at least. cf. taxi drivers, police, firefighters etc
Only if they’re conveying a patient in the back.

in C1 vehicles you don’t have to if you‘re low speed reversing either.
 
Bloody hell :eek:

Honestly, if I was the driver I'd insist they put it on, if I was the passenger I'd refuse to get in the van ever again with that person. How do they get away with it? Does nobody raise it, anywhere? If not, that's actually really worrying!
At the end of the day if they’re over 14, it’s their responsibility. 🤷‍♂️
 
Is the ambulance service a rescue service even?

When you don't need to wear a seat belt​


You don’t need to wear a seat belt if you’re:
  • a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing
  • in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services
 
At the end of the day if they’re over 14, it’s their responsibility. 🤷‍♂️

It's my hangup, I admit that. I get unbearably anxious if anyone in a car isn't strapped in, I put it down to being in an unfortunately high number of car fuckups years ago with my stupid mates, and seeing what happens when someone isn't wearing one.
 
I was out of the country when the law changed requiring passengers to belt up, so missed all the publicity. Took me a few years to get used to the idea and for it to become instinctive because of this.

(bear in mind that at this time I’d probably only travel in cars a handful of times a year)
 
Is the ambulance service a rescue service even?

When you don't need to wear a seat belt​


You don’t need to wear a seat belt if you’re:
  • a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing
  • in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services

No, the actual law is clear and just specifies police and fire.
 
Is the ambulance service a rescue service even?

When you don't need to wear a seat belt​


You don’t need to wear a seat belt if you’re:
  • a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing
  • in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services
The ambulance service isn’t an emergency service officially.
 

A learner driver was arrested twice on the same day, in the same car - for the same offence.
The driver, who had a provisional licence, was arrested in a Mercedes near St Austell in Cornwall for driving without supervision on Wednesday.
His car was seized and he returned later to get the car from the police pound, Devon and Cornwall Police said.
Officers said he was later arrested in the same car at Summercourt in Cornwall for driving while unsupervised.
The driver of a car that picked up the arrested man for the second offence was also arrested for driving while disqualified.
Both men are due to appear in court at a later date.
A force spokesman said: "It's not often we can say we have seized the same car twice in one day."
After the car was seized at Bugle, near St Austell, police said they "received some information that the same person was on his way to collect the vehicle with another insured person but they were driving to the recovery yard rather than getting a lift".
Officers said: "Suspecting that our provisional licence holder may end up driving unsupervised again, we kept an eye out.
"Shortly after, we saw the vehicle being driven on the A30 near Summercourt.
"We stopped it again and found the provisional licence holder unsupervised again.
"Vehicle seized for a second time and he will now be going to court for two offences."
Police said "to top it off, the person who was on their way to pick him up was stopped" in another Mercedes and was arrested for driving while disqualified.





Whilst an amusing story it does highlight how common illegal driving has become; no licence, on a ban, no insurance, no MOT and so on. ANPR is supposed to make these things harder, but with plod no longer policing roads it seems that the risks of getting caught are so small it's worth it for many people :(
 
Also the added costs of running a car legally, the culture around driving is one of entitlement to do so however you wish, and the alternative public transport options are so shit in most places, that for a significant number of people it seems almost reasonable. :(
 

A learner driver was arrested twice on the same day, in the same car - for the same offence.
The driver, who had a provisional licence, was arrested in a Mercedes near St Austell in Cornwall for driving without supervision on Wednesday.
His car was seized and he returned later to get the car from the police pound, Devon and Cornwall Police said.
Officers said he was later arrested in the same car at Summercourt in Cornwall for driving while unsupervised.
The driver of a car that picked up the arrested man for the second offence was also arrested for driving while disqualified.
Both men are due to appear in court at a later date.
A force spokesman said: "It's not often we can say we have seized the same car twice in one day."
After the car was seized at Bugle, near St Austell, police said they "received some information that the same person was on his way to collect the vehicle with another insured person but they were driving to the recovery yard rather than getting a lift".
Officers said: "Suspecting that our provisional licence holder may end up driving unsupervised again, we kept an eye out.
"Shortly after, we saw the vehicle being driven on the A30 near Summercourt.
"We stopped it again and found the provisional licence holder unsupervised again.
"Vehicle seized for a second time and he will now be going to court for two offences."
Police said "to top it off, the person who was on their way to pick him up was stopped" in another Mercedes and was arrested for driving while disqualified.





Whilst an amusing story it does highlight how common illegal driving has become; no licence, on a ban, no insurance, no MOT and so on. ANPR is supposed to make these things harder, but with plod no longer policing roads it seems that the risks of getting caught are so small it's worth it for many people :(
Cornwall and most the South West are pretty ripe for drink driving too.
 
Read that story recently. Back in those days, was a driving test required and/ or did you simply buy a driving licence. My ma had a little red fold up driving licence, I think. I'm not sure if she ever took a driving test it would have been nothing like I took which was nothing in comparison to today's tests. Hopefully, the beaks will go easy on that chap.
 
Read that story recently. Back in those days, was a driving test required and/ or did you simply buy a driving licence. My ma had a little red fold up driving licence, I think. I'm not sure if she ever took a driving test it would have been nothing like I took which was nothing in comparison to today's tests. Hopefully, the beaks will go easy on that chap.
They became compulsory in June 1935 when the driving test was introduced, so the old chap should have had one. I hope they go easy on him too - but I wonder how many more people there are like him driving around unlicensed and uninsured.
 
They became compulsory in June 1935 when the driving test was introduced, so the old chap should have had one. I hope they go easy on him too - but I wonder how many more people there are like him driving around unlicensed and uninsured.

They probably can't put the thoughtless old cunt in prison but they should confiscate/crush his motor and ban him for what's left of his life. In theory there shouldn't be too many of these fuckwits about because ANPR should be picking them up but there are the best part of a million uninsured drivers on UK roads and it's not busting them. I hope it's not true but a copper on the radio yesterday was saying that ANPR pings are so common in some places that some plod turn it off, otherwise they'd get no other work done. Unlicensed driving apparently is a bigger issue in Ireland where driving tests have only been mandatory since the 60s, so they have quite a few older folk who've been driving since before that.
 
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