Driving Standards

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another sent down

High speed crash of racing drink-driver who had three-year-old son in the car

Seeing the footage 'makes you wince' said judge

www.derbytelegraph.co.uk

 

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He never saw the river in front of him

 

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A 6 month ban and £660 fine with the ban being reduced because people recognised him and it's costing him money. Bless. My heart bleeds.

'EastEnders' actor Jamie Borthwick has driving ban reduced as he's 'recognised' on public transport

The actor's team said he had 'issues' with public transport.

www.yahoo.com

 

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New Ogmios has dropped...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A 6 month ban and £660 fine with the ban being reduced because people recognised him and it's costing him money. Bless. My heart bleeds.

'EastEnders' actor Jamie Borthwick has driving ban reduced as he's 'recognised' on public transport

The actor's team said he had 'issues' with public transport.

www.yahoo.com

Never understood why this defence gets accepted, either you’re such a fucking big deal that you can afford a chauffeur or you’re not and if you choose to drive like a dick can get the bus. I wouldn’t know him from Adam and his show always seems to be on in our house…

 

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He should have thought about it a bit more when he was on 6 points. But no, he took his tally to 12 points and still only got a 6 month ban, later reduced to 56 days.
I know a blue light driver that was extremely careful having reached 6 points.
It doesn't take a genius to work that one out.

Don't you know who I am.

 

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New Ogmios has dropped...

Frankly I always drive like that without even having to think about it, and would expect any any vaguely experienced and competent driver to do so too. Having said that, I act in a similarly considerate and streetwise manner when in a pedestrian or cyclist mode, regardless of priorities or law-given rights.

In a similar vein if someone ever bothered to produce similar videos for pedestrians, if a car is on a busy main road indicating to turn right onto a side street, waiting for a gap in the oncoming traffic that allows them to perform the manoeuvre, it is both sensible and considerate as a pedestrian to notice this if you’re approaching the junction, and let the vehicle wishing to turn right to do instead of start crossing the street, regardless of whether it is your Highway Code-given right to do so.

That’s at junctions not regulated by pedestrian crossings, when you’re allowed to cross whenever you please. At traffic light-regulated junctions, where pedestrians are supposed to wait for the green man, any peds crossing the road illegally without even bothering to check for cars about to turn right are inconsiderate idiots at best. But sadly, always immune from any legal repercussions.

 

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What if the pedestrian is obliged to wait in pissing rain?

 

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Oh dear Driving ban for Welsh Health Minister Eluned Morgan for speeding

 

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Looks like they tried to go to Specsavers Gorseinon: Girls arrested after crash into opticians

 

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The Devon & Cornwall police has released a video showing appalling behaviour by cyclists with a driving licence behind the wheel:

'Unbelievably dangerous' driving caught on camera

In February the public sent 279 submissions of poor driving evidence to the police.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[spitfire]

This should amuse and horrify in equal measure. Sound on, (commentary is loud and sweary).

 

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This should amuse and horrify in equal measure. Sound on, (commentary is loud and sweary).

brainless. We learn from our mistakes, the mistake? Don't ever mess with trams that could have been nasty and many lives could have been put at risk with that stupidity.

 

[spitfire]

brainless. We learn from our mistakes, the mistake? Don't ever mess with trams that could have been nasty and many lives could have been put at risk with that stupidity.

Indeed, that Croydon tram crash was horrific and there wasn't even a bus load of people involved on top of that.

 

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Idiocy and worthy of note Man leaves car in M6 traffic to adjust mirror at extreme risk to self

 

[maomao]

What's the most effective way to report driving offenses? Was just walking my little girl home from karate and some utter cunt was riding a motorbike through the foot tunnel. Had a learner plate on, hopefully get him in trouble before it becomes a habit.

 

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To the police I guess, but you will need good evidence for them to bother.

 

[maomao]

To the police I guess, but you will need good evidence for them to bother.

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Reg number not on the DVLA.

 

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Even more reason to notify the plod

 

[maomao]

Done now. He'll know who grassed if it comes to anything but he looked pretty wary of me anyway.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A1(M) Durham bridge plunge car thief jailed for 32 months

Hugh Holmes crashed a stolen car off a flyover and left his passenger critically injured.

www.bbc.co.uk

So we have...

Driving on a drink drive ban
Stealing a car
Driving that car like an utter cunt, several collisions with other cars
Crashing the car off a bridge and landing on a motorway
Female passenger in car tried to get out but he prevented her, she is left with a broken spine and is in a wheelchair, unable to walk at all
He refused to give breath specimen



32 months prison, so out in less than a year and a half, plus a 7 year driving ban



Wholly, fucking, inadequate.

 

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Apparently he won’t cope well with prison, isn’t that the point?

Taxi driver who killed 'loving' cyclist in 2020 crash walks from court

A ‘loving’ cyclist who was knocked off his bike by a taxi driver in the early hours died a fortnight after the crash.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

 

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The cyclist was not wearing reflective clothing and did not have flashing lights making him difficult to see, by a professional driver

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Apparently he won’t cope well with prison, isn’t that the point?

Taxi driver who killed 'loving' cyclist in 2020 crash walks from court

A ‘loving’ cyclist who was knocked off his bike by a taxi driver in the early hours died a fortnight after the crash.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

Prison is not supposed to be somewhere you can't cope, that isn't the point of it, the point is to take away your liberty, thus making that time wasted and your future life more difficult, that is the punishment element of prison.

This professional driver "simply didn't see" - rather he failed to look properly.

The defence has a little dip in to victim blaming, " he asked the judge to consider his client’s culpability in the context of the crash, pointing to the fact Mr Mallinson had not been wearing reflective clothing or using flashing lights. He suggested the cyclist was ‘very difficult to see’."

So it's careless driving, rather than dangerous and careless rarely carries an actual custodial sentence. Yet again to prove dangerous driving in this case would have been very hard, so the CPS and judge were tied.

Cycling UK is pushing for the starting point of dangerous driving to be any action that would be an immediate fail during a driving test. Killing a cyclist would be an immediate fail.

 

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As an aside I note the word ‘deeply’ as in ‘deeply sorry’, a phrase much overused.
As in the politicians being ‘deeply’ sorry or concerned over somebody they have never met.
Seems like a weasel term….what’s wrong with saying you’re sorry without adding a term that says to me insincerity rather than sincerity?

 

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Prison is not supposed to be somewhere you can't cope, that isn't the point of it, the point is to take away your liberty, thus making that time wasted and your future life more difficult, that is the punishment element of prison.

This professional driver "simply didn't see" - rather he failed to look properly.

The defence has a little dip in to victim blaming, " he asked the judge to consider his client’s culpability in the context of the crash, pointing to the fact Mr Mallinson had not been wearing reflective clothing or using flashing lights. He suggested the cyclist was ‘very difficult to see’."

So it's careless driving, rather than dangerous and careless rarely carries an actual custodial sentence. Yet again to prove dangerous driving in this case would have been very hard, so the CPS and judge were tied.

Cycling UK is pushing for the starting point of dangerous driving to be any action that would be an immediate fail during a driving test. Killing a cyclist would be an immediate fail.

Perhaps cope well was the wrong choice of words, but the judge said he would seriously struggle with prison - is that a reason to keep him out?.
What was the actual punishment in this case?. A two year driving ban?

 

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Perhaps cope well was the wrong choice of words, but the judge said he would seriously struggle with prison - is that a reason to keep him out?.
What was the actual punishment in this case?. A two year driving ban?

I get the impression that saying the defendant "...would struggle with prison" is a standard bit of mitigation used to try and press for a non-custodial sentence. It's a bit bollocks, really.

 

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The cyclist was not wearing reflective clothing and did not have flashing lights making him difficult to see, by a professional driver

He had a light on his bike though.

 

[nick]

Pretty sure that until relatively recently flashing lights weren't even officially allowed on bikes.

Still - obviously the cyclist's fault - doubtless they didn't even pay "road tax" so had no right to be there

 

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He had a light on his bike though.

Not to mention reflectors front and back and on the wheels. At the end of the day, the cyclist should not have been there.
It's not just the cyclist that's lost a life, its a big loss to all his family and friends. He was clearly much loved.