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Dogsauce said:
Suspect the Judge might be taking into consideration the effect on her family, I recall she had a severely disabled son and if she’s involved with his care that might mean they steer away from a custodial.
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And several other children 😟 what sort of responsible parent carrys on like that.
 
hash tag said:
And several other children 😟 what sort of responsible parent carrys on like that.
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None. She might be a parent, but there is - even outside her driving history - precious little evidence of responsibility being in play.

I guess we can never know exactly on what basis the judge chose to be so lenient, and all we can hope for is that next time - I suspect there will be a next time - she continues to fail to wreck any life but her own.
 
hash tag said:
Heres a new get out of jail free card wernicke's syndrome.

www.standard.co.uk

Barrister spared jail over drink drive crash thanks to memory lapses

The sentencing magistrate accepted part-time judge James Dawson has Wernicke’s syndrome, a neurological condition which means he does not know he has drunk alcohol
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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Maybe, if you know you have a condition which means you have no memory of drinking booze, you should hide you car keys before cracking open a case of single malt.
 
Badgers said:
Generally I spend very little time 'on the road' but have done a good 12-14 hours over the last 5 days.

Fucking hell there are some appalling drivers about :eek: number of people texting and driving shocked me a bit. Drifting across three lanes at 60-70mph looking at their laps.
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It's was all Sunday drivers right through Christmas. I recall seeing someone overtake a bus while the bus was turning a corner. I also saw someone go through a red light at a t junction like it didn't exist. I forget all the other instances.
 
hash tag said:
It's was all Sunday drivers right through Christmas. I recall seeing someone overtake a bus while the bus was turning a corner. I also saw someone go through a red light at a t junction like it didn't exist. I forget all the other instances.
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Yes. I’ve been out a few times and it has been pretty shocking the general standards on display.

Had 2 near misses today, absolute fucking dickheads. Red lights seem to have become optional.
 
hash tag said:
It's was all Sunday drivers right through Christmas. I recall seeing someone overtake a bus while the bus was turning a corner. I also saw someone go through a red light at a t junction like it didn't exist. I forget all the other instances.
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Lot of drivers recklessly joining motorways. Quite a lot of speeding drivers weaving through traffic in the rain.

Nothing new I guess but the sheer number of feckless cunts is really surprising.
 
spitfire said:
Yes. I’ve been out a few times and it has been pretty shocking the general only standards on display.

Had 2 near misses today, absolute fucking dickheads. Red lights seem to have become optional.
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I was only driving because of work. It was all local town roads. On reflection, I'm relieved no one scraped me.
 
I was Bethnal Green to Hendon and back. Taking the nipper to the RAF museum. So all City/urban A roads.

I’ve noticed it getting worse over the last year or so I’m sure.
 
The other week I noticed a guy driving along without his seatbelt, never really paid attention before, but now I have I'm genuinely shocked at how many people regularly drive without one. I thought this was one of those things that everyone just did now but as I've started to pay attention I would estimate up to about 30% don't bother. Obviously this includes white van man and scaffolding lorries which as everyone knows are exempt. Even when I don't count any that are ambiguous it's still a scary number.

I get it that in the front at least they are only likely to kill themselves and not squash the person in front of them, but still, every single time I pay attention to people driving past I'll see someone without a seatbelt within a couple of minutes. I shouted at someone on a junction the other day as he had his two kids jumping around in the back, without looking at me, he reached back and walloped the nearest kid, then drove off.
I wonder if it's that people think they have survived covid and now are invulnerable.
 
dervish said:
The other week I noticed a guy driving along without his seatbelt, never really paid attention before, but now I have I'm genuinely shocked at how many people regularly drive without one. I thought this was one of those things that everyone just did now but as I've started to pay attention I would estimate up to about 30% don't bother. Obviously this includes white van man and scaffolding lorries which as everyone knows are exempt. Even when I don't count any that are ambiguous it's still a scary number.

I get it that in the front at least they are only likely to kill themselves and not squash the person in front of them, but still, every single time I pay attention to people driving past I'll see someone without a seatbelt within a couple of minutes. I shouted at someone on a junction the other day as he had his two kids jumping around in the back, without looking at me, he reached back and walloped the nearest kid, then drove off.
I wonder if it's that people think they have survived covid and now are invulnerable.
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I don't imagine Covid has that much to do with it. There is a natural human tendency to discount risk, and the notion that "I've never needed a seatbelt in 30 years of driving, so why should I need one today?" is one that is deeply embedded in our psychology. The only way to overcome it is either not to think about it, and just wear the seatbelt habitually (which is what most of us will do), and/or to cognitively remind ourselves that we might only need a seatbelt once in a lifetime, but if we're not wearing one when we need it, that could be the end of that lifetime.

Like you, I think the notion that if someone wants to bring their life to a premature end by doing something as simple as not wearing a seatbelt, then that's on them...but then even that dad in the car (assuming his children were strapped in) would be depriving his kids of their father if he's involved in an RTC and dies as a result of not wearing his seatbelt. The idea that parents are happy to let their children bounce around in the back of the car unrestrained, though, is unconscionable to me. I did watch one of those "Ready Steady Crash" programmes about police once, though, where the copper spotted unrestrained kids in the back, and properly threw the book at the driver when he pulled him over, so my viewpoint clearly isn't unique :)
 
The seatbelt thing is odd, mate of mine in the 90's got in to mid-level criminality, shifting lorry-loads of hijacked mobile phones. He was known to Old Bill and often had large wads of cash or boxes of phones on him that would be awkward to explain, yet purposefully didn't wear a seatbelt as if that made him some kind of rebel. Over a few beers I carefully explained that no belt is very visible and a good excuse for a tug and won't he feel like a twat going down for 5 years when it could have been avoided by clunk-clicking? Also make sure your car is bland and legal. He fully took that on board and never got nicked and has used the wedge he made during those times to start several legit businesses that are still doing nicely today.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
The seatbelt thing is odd, mate of mine in the 90's got in to mid-level criminality, shifting lorry-loads of hijacked mobile phones. He was known to Old Bill and often had large wads of cash or boxes of phones on him that would be awkward to explain, yet purposefully didn't wear a seatbelt as if that made him some kind of rebel. Over a few beers I carefully explained that no belt is very visible and a good excuse for a tug and won't he feel like a twat going down for 5 years when it could have been avoided by clunk-clicking? Also make sure your car is bland and legal. He fully took that on board and never got nicked and has used the wedge he made during those times to start several legit businesses that are still doing nicely today.
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Never understood drug dealers in flash motors with blacked out windows 🙄
 
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