Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[Yossarian]

Trump is now back to promising "safe zones" for refugees in Syria, looks like the honeymoon with Moscow is not going to be a long one.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Why is there a death star?

A hell of a question there, fella.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

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[SpineyNorman]

WTF are you talking about? You can't have ever set foot in the US, or at least not far outside some rarefied community of political soul mates. Seriously.

"These clowns" whoever they are, using xenophobia to delegitimise Trump's election? Criticising the Russian government and Russian intelligence activities is xenophobia now is it?

Do you seriously equate Trump and his followers continuous demonisation of Muslim citizens and residents of the US, the attacks on them, their homes and businesses, the threats to place them on a national register, with criticism of the Russian government and Russian intelligence - neither of which are citizens or residents of the US? Fuck me!

McCain and Graham, war hawks? Are you saying the US should just "do a Chamberlain," or rather Trump should just "be a Quisling" to save putting Putin's wee nose out of joint? Fuck me . . .

Putin is Hitler now is he? I've tried to be patient with you in exchanges in the past but at some point you have to call it as you see it. You're an hysterical moron. And now, like many liberals seem to be, you're going full cinspiraloon on this whole Russian hacking Putin is going to take over Europe (which he'd have to to make your Chamberlain comparison valid).

Take a look at yourself, it's embarrassing.

 

[october_lost]

This will do it.

 

[maomao]

This will do it.

They should have got Charlie to do it rather than Martin.

 

[camouflage]

I pray for total nuclear annihilation purely on the basis that it would mean no one would ever have to read your posts again.

The internet was conceived by DARPA to withstand nuclear strikes, so you're out of luck I'm afraid. Best try a different way.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The system prevented Bernie from being nominated instead of the establishment apparatchik, the system maintains Wall Streets interests at the expense of the interests of the bulk of the population, it also sent US jobs to China (not that I'm against the Chinese having jobs). The system permitted no alternative to all this within the 'acceptable bounds' (again- Bernie, who in the end bowed to the same system). Sooner or later the boil of what's wrong was going to burst forth in some form or other. Politics of frustration init.

Anyway, Trump's not killed anyone so far, as much of a swine as he comes across I reckon we should see what he actually does before acting like an American Mussolini has seized power. When he tries to do illegal things that's when it makes sense to fill the streets and demand impeachment or whatever, otherwise it's just another ugly colour-coded regime change (royal purple perhaps) that won't result in the desired outcome.

US presidents kill people. That's been true since at least WW2. Clinton would have done, too. Only question is which people, and how many.

As for using legality as your judging point, that's not a good guide.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

People asking for that hacking proof:

How Russia Pulled Off the Biggest Election Hack in U.S. History

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Guess the Chinese mean business:

A Chinese Navy warship has seized an underwater drone deployed by an American oceanographic vessel in international waters in the South China Sea, triggering a formal demarche from the United States and a demand for its return, a U.S. defense official told Reuters on Friday.

The incident — the first of its kind in recent memory — took place on Dec. 15 northwest of Subic Bay just as the USNS Bowditch, an oceanographic survey ship, was about to retrieve the unmanned, underwater vehicle (UUV), the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

China's Navy seizes American underwater drone in South China Sea


Aren't we lucky that Clinton didn't win the election?

 

[butchersapron]

def full scale nuclear war now likely.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Probably not: Trump is still only President-elect.

 

[J Ed]

def full scale nuclear war now likely.

In other news: creeky sounds during the night are almost certainly GHOSTS!

 

[camouflage]

Guess the Chinese mean business:



China's Navy seizes American underwater drone in South China Sea


Aren't we lucky that Clinton didn't win the election?

Looks to me like the War on China faction won against the War on Russia faction, with allies from the slutty War on Iran faction. Hopefully it buys us a couple more years.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Trump threw a childish hissy fit yesterday on Twitter when Vanity Fair wrote a bad review of the Trump Grille, a restaurant in Trump Tower.

President-elect Donald Trump has a lot on his plate right now, but he managed to carve out critical time to launch a food fight with Vanity Fair after the magazine published a scathing review of his Trump Tower restaurant.

Trump Dishes Out Vanity Fair Tweet Tirade After Blistering Restaurant Review | The Huffington Post

Wonder how he'll respond when something happens, like, say.... the Chinese Navy seizing US military vehicles?

 

[J Ed]

Guess the Chinese mean business:



China's Navy seizes American underwater drone in South China Sea


Aren't we lucky that Clinton didn't win the election?

Are we upset at Trump for being a craven coward who gives into America's enemies today or because he is a warmonger?

 

[camouflage]

US presidents kill people. That's been true since at least WW2. Clinton would have done, too. Only question is which people, and how many.

As for using legality as your judging point, that's not a good guide.

There we go, Potuses kill people, always thousands, usually brown or black, occasionally white and slavic. So your point about Trump was?

My point re legality is in terms of people who are against Trump wanting to facilitate a dangerous precedent that in my opinion is out of line. They do fuck all in line as it is when the crimes are in the open. I won't be banging on about it though.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I'm upset because the United States has elected a narcissistic, ill-informed, would-be demagogue as their President.

 

[J Ed]

I'm upset because the United States has elected a narcissistic, ill-informed, would-be demagogue as their President.

I thought Clinton lost?

 

[butchersapron]

Trump threw a childish hissy fit yesterday on Twitter when Vanity Fair wrote a bad review of the Trump Grille, a restaurant in Trump Tower.



Trump Dishes Out Vanity Fair Tweet Tirade After Blistering Restaurant Review | The Huffington Post

Wonder how he'll respond when something happens, like, say.... the Chinese Navy seizing US military vehicles?

These are the tools appropriate to fight fascism. I was looking for them but now i found them.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Are we upset at Trump for being a craven coward who gives into America's enemies today or because he is a warmonger?

False dichotomy, btw: if Trump is aggressive toward China, while appeasing Russia, he can be both coward and warmonger at the same time.

 

[J Ed]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-fbi-comey.html?_r=0

Narcissism

The Russians, she said, sought to “undermine our democracy” through cyberattacks on Democratic targets. She said the hacking into the Democratic National Committee and into the emails of her campaign chairman, John D. Podesta, were a result of Mr. Putin’s “personal beef” against her, pointing to her accusation that Russia’s 2011 parliamentary elections were rigged.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

A serious international incident, first of its kind in recent times, and he can't stop talking about the DNC.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

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[J Ed]

A serious international incident, first of its kind in recent times, and he can't stop talking about the DNC.

Ironically enough your short attention span and total lack of interest in examining anything in any depth whatsoever, breathlessly flitting from recent twitter outrage to recent twitter outrage reminds me of a certain political figure

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I wonder if Trump is going to skip that National Security daily briefing today?

 

[J Ed]

Can anyone remind me which president initiated the US pivot to Asia?!

 

[J Ed]

I wonder if Trump is going to take that National Security daily briefing today?

I think if you were actually as concerned with the incident as you are acting like you are then you would be more interested in what the actual president is intending to do about it.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The actual president is having to clean up after a mess made by the President-elect.

I'm confident that Obama will be able to handle it - for as long as he remains in office.

The more pertinent question is what is in store for the world after the January inauguration?

 

[J Ed]

The actual president is having to clean up after a mess made by the President-elect.

I'm confident that Obama will be able to handle it - for as long as he remains in office.

The more pertinent question is what is in store for the world after the January inauguration?

See, this is the problem with being like 'history is over, doesn't matter, everything in the past is irrelevant'.