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I think people are taking the anti-video thing a bit far. In this case yes the thumbnail is over the top. But the title isn't click bait at all and the video itself is, well, just kind of fine. It had the sort of over the top delivery that is common in America but it's only 8 minutes long.

What it basically says is Republicans will carry on their voter suppression tactics, but things like suppression of post in votes could actually harm them and that Trump can't cancel elections or fundamentally change how they are run.

I pretty much agree with all that, the second point is debatable but it is not presented as a hard fact, just a possibility It doesn't really say much interesting but it's not bad really. It is part of a content mill to make money, but that's oftern going to he the case these days.

Is there a way to post links to YouTube videos as a text link only without the thumbnail? That might help I think.
 
Thing is a lot of videos have been posted on this site for a very long time, some really important, some fucking funny, and its never been a problem till now because there was always a level of self moderation involved. Now we have 1 person acting like a spam cannon for trash content farms and the good stuff risks being lost in the sea of trash.
The Meidas Touch is releasing 15-20 videos a day and pulling in between $150,000 to $350,000 a month from this shit. it's fucking spam.
 
I think people are taking the anti-video thing a bit far. In this case yes the thumbnail is over the top. But the title isn't click bait at all and the video itself is, well, just kind of fine. It had the sort of over the top delivery that is common in America but it's only 8 minutes long.

What it basically says is Republicans will carry on their voter suppression tactics, but things like suppression of post in votes could actually harm them and that Trump can't cancel elections or fundamentally change how they are run.

I pretty much agree with all that, the second point is debatable but it is not presented as a hard fact, just a possibility It doesn't really say much interesting but it's not bad really. It is part of a content mill to make money, but that's oftern going to he the case these days.

Is there a way to post links to YouTube videos as a text link only without the thumbnail? That might help I think.
In the video did Trump officially announce his plans to change elections?
 
In the video did Trump officially announce his plans to change elections?
No it's more Trump rambled about election changes. But I still don't think the title counts as clickbait on its own. The thumbnail absolutely does though.
 
Thing is a lot of videos have been posted on this site for a very long time, some really important, some fucking funny, and its never been a problem till now because there was always a level of self moderation involved. Now we have 1 person acting like a spam cannon for trash content farms and the good stuff risks being lost in the sea of trash.
The Meidas Touch is releasing 15-20 videos a day and pulling in between $150,000 to $350,000 a month from this shit. it's fucking spam.
I am not a spam cannon, how dare you? I don't only post from TMT, but so what if I did? The vids I post are not trash content farms. The people I watch are relevant and experts in their field, which includes lots of lawyers, political scientists and journalists.

You sound ridiculous. Haven't you got anything better to do than post claptrap about me and videos?
 
breadandcircuse has started adding a description to the videos they post as requested. I sometimes watch Meidas Touch videos, mainly I don't as I find they can ramble on a bit. But you know what? If I don't want to watch them I use the magic scroll wheel on my mouse and, well, scroll past. It's not hard or difficult and doesn't take a whole lot of time or concerted effort to do so.

If that's the main thing some people are obsessing over then they should probably address their own issues first.

Now, back on topic

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sadly they've got vote they voted for - especially with that electoral college bollox. trouble is, the orange maggot and his zealots will seriously fux over the rest of their population and the world while implementing project2025.
His announcements in that article are truly bonkers, and while we may laugh at many of them there will be an effect on us so we really should be concerned.
 
I think people are taking the anti-video thing a bit far. In this case yes the thumbnail is over the top. But the title isn't click bait at all and the video itself is, well, just kind of fine. It had the sort of over the top delivery that is common in America but it's only 8 minutes long.

What it basically says is Republicans will carry on their voter suppression tactics, but things like suppression of post in votes could actually harm them and that Trump can't cancel elections or fundamentally change how they are run.

I pretty much agree with all that, the second point is debatable but it is not presented as a hard fact, just a possibility It doesn't really say much interesting but it's not bad really. It is part of a content mill to make money, but that's oftern going to he the case these days.

Is there a way to post links to YouTube videos as a text link only without the thumbnail? That might help I think.

Thing is a lot of videos have been posted on this site for a very long time, some really important, some fucking funny, and its never been a problem till now because there was always a level of self moderation involved. Now we have 1 person acting like a spam cannon for trash content farms and the good stuff risks being lost in the sea of trash.
The Meidas Touch is releasing 15-20 videos a day and pulling in between $150,000 to $350,000 a month from this shit. it's fucking spam.

Well, contradictory as that sounds, I'm with large parts of both of these. Threads in Politics/Current Affairs on Urban have a shared assumption that there's an argument going on, a case being made or information added. Videos can be part of that, as can news links and longer articles. Videos are fine.... provided they are part of a case/argument (and if long, with some direction as to the relevant bits). I don't see Meidas Touch as really delivering that as they are made for entirely partisan purposes, as an anti-Trump PAC and, as mentioned, to make money. I think the Tories are neoliberal scum who have enriched themselves and their mates and couldn't lie straight in bed... but I wouldn't post Labour Party videos to make that case.

But then, fuck it, anarchist website becomes grumpy old men. breadandcircuse is adding text to the videos, so all is good. Ish. ;)
 
And how will you distinguish between them?
Since I don't work for ICE, it'll be the same way everyone else gets to distinguish; by seeing them on a news clip wailing on about "this isn't what I voted for!" when it is precisely what they voted for so as far those sorts of ladder-pullers is concerned, I have zero sympathy. HTH, smartarse.
 
I've not watched any of breadandcircuse's videos (nor am I likely to), so I don't know whether they're good or bad. But it'd be nice if people stopped banging on about them. It's more disruptive to the thread than the videos posted. As long as they're not far right, fash cunt, etc, videos then it's really not worth the mither.
The voice of reason.

Thank you.
 
Well, contradictory as that sounds, I'm with large parts of both of these. Threads in Politics/Current Affairs on Urban have a shared assumption that there's an argument going on, a case being made or information added. Videos can be part of that, as can news links and longer articles. Videos are fine.... provided they are part of a case/argument (and if long, with some direction as to the relevant bits). I don't see Meidas Touch as really delivering that as they are made for entirely partisan purposes, as an anti-Trump PAC and, as mentioned, to make money. I think the Tories are neoliberal scum who have enriched themselves and their mates and couldn't lie straight in bed... but I wouldn't post Labour Party videos to make that case.
Back when I first joined the politics boards the focus was on discussion, that's not to say there weren't bunfights but there were real political discussions over tactics, ideology history, etc. I really did learn quite a lot from posters like butchersapron , Louis MacNeice etc.

Increasingly P&P, and the boards as a whole, have become more of an alternative social media site, with more people using it as a sort of centre-left twitter (look at how much a prick Trump is). That strand was always there but it has become more and more prominent.

People are going to have preferences for which of those styles they prefer (very much the first for me). And it has always varied by thread and sub-forum. But I don't think it's a bad thing that P&P is more towards the first than the second, in say comparison to General etc. People providing some content to accompany links, of whatever sort is something that should be encouraged.
 
It's not like quality and accessibility of sources hasn't been a constant bone of contention on Urban over the last twenty years anyway. Try linking to RT or The Canary, or indeed Twitter on some threads. And we still get the odd exchange on whether linking to The Sun or The Daily Mail is acceptable.
 
It sometimes feels like this whole place has lurched in an infantile tabloid direction - twee nicknames like Faux for Fox or whatever is the latest unfunny sobriquet for Trump is another example, but I think that’s just down to the wider insidious brainrot of other social media.
I miss Butchers’ - he’d have sent this new lot packing
 
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