Actually the last part isn't true. The whole purpose of the metaplot during Matt Smith's first season was to effectively make it so no one knows about aliens. That's why Amy has no idea what a Dalek is during Victory of the Daleks.
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Actually the last part isn't true. The whole purpose of the metaplot during Matt Smith's first season was to effectively make it so no one knows about aliens. That's why Amy has no idea what a Dalek is during Victory of the Daleks.
I had forgotten that.
That PhD in Whovian studies is finally paying off.
Yeah, but the student loan has ten billion years worth of interest!
That's a great point. Not that it made it pointless, exactly, but it would have been a much stronger episode without those first two minutes.
My bugbear was that obvious budget constraints had made them turn thousands of people coming out of hibernation into apparently less than a dozen. And then those dozen should have been slaughtered by the microbots (NB not nanobots, which would be invisible!) within about 2 seconds flat.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
I've nothing against 'meta' in principle but the overarching plots in Who nearly always feel to me like the writers trying to prove how much cleverer than us they are, rather than challenging us to prove we're clever enough to figure them out. Not least because they rarely turn out to be coherent enough for 'figuring them out' to be feasible. If it keeps the writers going I don't really mind that, but as long as it doesn't distract them from delivering satisfying plot development and resolution within the individual episodes.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Ralf Little's character was a total nob. By the end I was under no illusion that a few weeks after the Doctor had left they'd be at it again, causing all sorts of mayhem and being total dicks. They didn't show them learning from the experience. They were still colonialist twatfaces.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Yup. I reckon they were about two weeks away from a second massacre.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Any colony with one of the blokes from 2pints isn't the earth's best and brightest.
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
Yes they were but they had just woken up to the news that their friends and family had been mulched by killer robots, I'd be a it miffed if it was me
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you have to admire the sheer swinging dick of someone who thinks you can fight an enemy who could destroy you into bones in minutes. Pea sized brain tho.
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
True but I know when I'm woken up my brain is not at home to reasonable or intelligent thought, besides it would've been quite weird if they had been reasonable about it from the start.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
also capaldi was at a 'march for science' in that london the other day. Which had somehow attracted an ant-brexit crowd and lamentations that scientists could now never work together over the continent now. Because apparently before the glorious EU there was no international journals, no exchange of ideas and european scientists never collaborated. Ever.
Why don't the uneducated accept the guidance of their degree-bearing betters?
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
and there's me thinking it was more about the funding that will be lost.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'm not having this row on a doctor who thread. Some things are sacred. My morning coffee and Doctor Who
gosub
~#
Glasgow School of Art?
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
No row, there was supposed to be a smiley face nobody wants to be mulch
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Yeah, but there was no attempt to show they'd learned anything from the experience, so when the Doc left them it was pretty clear everyone would be dead in a month. It's one thing to understand why they'd go batshit when they woke up, but it's another to not bother showing that they learned from the experience. Weakest part of the episode.
The Spaceship Uk one (Beast Below?) Earth survivors on a Spaceship being killed by smiling robots whose faces change when you're fucked. Last minute realisation sentient life is being exploited but you can figure it out. Ark in Space as well. Humans fleeing Earth in suspended animation pods under attack. Those being two of the ships evacuating Earth the Doctor mentioned he had bumped into. There's also the First Doctor one with the Ark fleeing Earth. Some alien worker types rebel and take over iirc. It's been 25 years since I watched it. Had a weird take on suspended animation as well with the population being shrunk to fit billions aboard and kept in drawers tended by those left awake and unshrunk.
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
Well to be fair even bill was wondering if would work at the end, but for myself I quite liked the ambiguity of whether the humans would play nice in the end.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Why did the cryogenic thingies wake up that one small boy first?
Why did the colonists even have laser guns?
Some nice moments with the Doctor and Bill though, despite the fairly rubbish plot. I'm already hoping Pearl Mackie stays on post-Capaldi, she's great.
Why did the colonists even have laser guns?
Some nice moments with the Doctor and Bill though, despite the fairly rubbish plot. I'm already hoping Pearl Mackie stays on post-Capaldi, she's great.
joustmaster
offcumdun
Weren't they quick to fighting, and armed, because they were from a violent and destructive period on earth?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I was just thing 'oh nice a whole ep without matt lucas but then right at the end..'
a solid history one, racist toff gets his due. Decent monster. I'd rate it better than last week anyway
a solid history one, racist toff gets his due. Decent monster. I'd rate it better than last week anyway
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
next weeks looks like a gatiss from the trailer. Theres a list somewhere upthread
The Gatiss episode is the Ice Warrior one on Mars later on
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I thought tonight's was good. Bill continues to delight me. Lucas can fuck off but I like the idea that it seems we're going to be angry with him and not like him later on when he does the knocker's bidding. On that note... I mean, if you've got a thing keep running with it but I wonder when people will get annoyed with it. The knocking. The drums. It was three knocks, then the last time it was four. Gotta be Simm, right?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
did the doc whitesplain a bit? I don't think he did. He played saviour of course but thats his whole bag and this is a new companion. The speech bit, you know the one. He spoke more to a universality than anything
that nardole/mysterious prison/vault bit was really crowbarred in
that nardole/mysterious prison/vault bit was really crowbarred in
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