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Doctor Who Series 10

Can’t believe people liked that episode. Nothing happened.
Shit story, one that really fucked up with people all sort of living forever? Ruined that girl living on as a water lady. What happened there??
but the two doctors interactions were fun.
Another looooonnnnng goodbye. . And a cliffhanger that will no doubt be magically fixed in the first minute of the next episode. Capaldi deserved more.
I still got some enjoyment from it. The daughter an I watched it three times.
 
Did a couple of rewatches over this week with the grandkids who really enjoyed it, the grandson was quite pleased he stayed spoiler free about the new doctor until the regeneration, and eldest granddaughter is relieved that she can now talk about it with her cousin as its been killing her since the offical announcement, you could see the struggle on her face sometimes but she was good about his no spoilers rule, will probably be watching again on saturday when they are over together :)
its still an enjoyable watch, Capaldi was excellent, he really has a most expressive face, the score was lovely and I thought David Bradley was very good as a substitute first Doctor, I was also relieved that the regeneration worked for me. I thought jodie whittaker did well in her few seconds of screen time and I was still ok with the casting choice of the new Doctor,
it was overall a sweet and charming christmas special, a soothing balm after the trauma of The Doctor falls.
 
Lethbridge-Stewart. The Brigadier (pertwee era first, later met several of them) as he was ranked in the 70s headed up UNIT (nato for anti alien stuff and combating general wierdness). A well liked and long serving Who character. This captain will have been an ancestor

pedant alert. He first appears in the Patrick Troughton era story "The Web of Fear" - battling robot yeti on the london underground.
 
For me as a casual Who watcher that can't remember anything from the original series, this Christmas special had way too much assumed knowledge. It was full of nods and winks to things that left me feeling like I wasn't in the right clique. That doesn't matter so much if it is peripheral, but on this occasion the nods and winks were central -- they basically were the storyline. I was left with a rather tedious story I had no investment in and the strong inference it all rather wasn't for me.
 
For me as a casual Who watcher that can't remember anything from the original series, this Christmas special had way too much assumed knowledge. It was full of nods and winks to things that left me feeling like I wasn't in the right clique. That doesn't matter so much if it is peripheral, but on this occasion the nods and winks were central -- they basically were the storyline. I was left with a rather tedious story I had no investment in and the strong inference it all rather wasn't for me.
I can see that. As a nerd who'd rewatched the Tenth Planet in preparation, I loved the episode particularly because it was a two hander with the First Doctor.

However my two daughters hate all Old Who. They think it's boring and not really anything to do with New Who. And my Elder Daughter loved the Christmas episode so much she said it has got her back into Who (she drifted away during the Matt Smith era). And my Younger Daughter wanted to rewatch New Who with me from the start on Netflix as a direct result.

So I don't think you have to be a Classic Who nerd to have enjoyed the episode.
 
I can see that. As a nerd who'd rewatched the Tenth Planet in preparation, I loved the episode particularly because it was actwo gander with the First Doctor.

However my two daughters hate all Old Who. They think it's boring and not really anything to do with New Who. And my Elder Daughter loved the Christmas episode so much she said it has got her back into Who (she drifted away during the Matt Smith era). And my Younger Daughter wanted to rewatch New Who with me from the start on Netflix as a direct result.

So I don't think you have to be a Classic Who nerd to have enjoyed the episode.
I'm genuinely glad they and you enjoyed it!

But it wasn't for me, Jen.
 
I liked that on some ways it really concentrated on this idea of rebirth, regeneration as a new beginning. Of course they always are but this one was played more for that. The wheel turns and the old pattern is new once more. Pleasing cycles.
 
I liked that on some ways it really concentrated on this idea of rebirth, regeneration as a new beginning. Of course they always are but this one was played more for that. The wheel turns and the old pattern is new once more. Pleasing cycles.
I liked the fact that it was the first regeneration and the first "extra" generation (sort of) (as well as first gender reassignment [that we know of]) coming together. There had been nods towards the First Doctor during the season (photo of Susan on his desk and so on), so it had a nice roundness to it.

I've seen criticism that the First Doctor wasn't as casually sexist in the series as in this episode, but his attitudes were certainly patriarchal. He forcibly abandons Susan with a man she has only just met and without consulting her, giving her a speech about growing up and becoming a wife etc. That's a biggie in my view!
 
it actually got me thinking about what it must be like to know the very mode of human interaction you grew up with and hey maybe you questioned it and maybe it never sat right but that...limits of what is, artificial limits yes but to you, they were how the world was. To see that in the harsh light of modernity (not that this is some wonderful post-patriachal world but you get me). To look at your own conduct at that time and find it wanting, not saville wanting, but onetheless. The good reactions from crap baker captured how I like to think I'd handle such. 'Change my dears, and not a moment to soon'.

the crap reaction. should capitalise that. The Reactionary position leads us once again to this snowflake talk, as if the transformation (however woefully limited- perhaps transformations is a wrong word) of views is now special pleading against the natural laws.
 
I can see that. As a nerd who'd rewatched the Tenth Planet in preparation, I loved the episode particularly because it was a two hander with the First Doctor.

However my two daughters hate all Old Who. They think it's boring and not really anything to do with New Who. And my Elder Daughter loved the Christmas episode so much she said it has got her back into Who (she drifted away during the Matt Smith era). And my Younger Daughter wanted to rewatch New Who with me from the start on Netflix as a direct result.

So I don't think you have to be a Classic Who nerd to have enjoyed the episode.
My daughter loves the references to past episodes and likes to find out about the history. That's part of it for her, so she is happy to watch old who. Even I struggle to watch some of it, only nostalgia keeps me afloat. Mind you, same can probably be said for new who. I'm surprised shes taken to it so feverishly. I bet one day we both find out that we are both only watching it for each other.
 
I liked the fact that it was the first regeneration and the first "extra" generation (sort of) (as well as first gender reassignment [that we know of]) coming together. There had been nods towards the First Doctor during the season (photo of Susan on his desk and so on), so it had a nice roundness to it.

I've seen criticism that the First Doctor wasn't as casually sexist in the series as in this episode, but his attitudes were certainly patriarchal. He forcibly abandons Susan with a man she has only just met and without consulting her, giving her a speech about growing up and becoming a wife etc. That's a biggie in my view!
Iirc the speech was him talking about setting her free from the burden he'd become for a shot at happiness.
 
My daughter has expressed an interest in getting a Peter Capaldi autograph. How does one go about this without going to a sci-fi convention?
 
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