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Do you now support military action against Syria's government?

Do you now support military action against Syria's government?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 9.9%
  • No

    Votes: 162 89.5%

  • Total voters
    181
I don't believe Obama is in the pocket of the arms dealers.

:D

That would be the politician heading successive administrations that have spent more on the military every year, and twice gained more financial support for campaigning from the military-industrial complex corporations than the GOP candidates.:facepalm:

He's the President of the United States.
 
The political part of the state represents total capital - it does things that go against certain capital interests in order to maintain the wider system. It doesn't get hijacked by one relatively small part of capital. That's the opposite of what it does. Forget arms dealers.
 
The political part of the state represents total capital - it does things that go against certain capital interests in order to maintain the wider system. It doesn't get hijacked by one relatively small part of capital. That's the opposite of what it does. Forget arms dealers.

You're right it is broader than one industry. Perhaps I should have used the word "Corporatist" instead.
 
TBH the only (armed) group involved in this that I have the slightest bit of sympathy with are the Kurds.


This while Assads government was bad and is doing some pretty evil stuff the opposition is pretty keen on vengeance and ethnic cleansing and who ever wins a vast amount of people are going to be refugees or made dead:(.
How the west can help this mess is beyond me. Going in guns blazing on one side or the other is easy neither side could stand up for long against western forces. Then your left with a divided Syria bristling with weapons and a population that hate you, sound familiar?
 
The political part of the state represents total capital - it does things that go against certain capital interests in order to maintain the wider system. It doesn't get hijacked by one relatively small part of capital. That's the opposite of what it does. Forget arms dealers.

Accepted, but it would be a mistake to under-estimate the influence held by the military-industrial complex.
 
Going in guns blazing on one side or the other is easy neither side could stand up for long against western forces. Then your left with a divided Syria bristling with weapons and a population that hate you, sound familiar?
Yep I sympathised with the Iraqi Kurds too
 
There are now reports that the "intervention" will start this Thursday. Uncle Sam will launch cruise missiles.



it would start by rounding you up and putting you in a secure institution with no internet access.

I don't think you can round up just one individual, so I guess you have a little list of people for humanitarian detention.
 
By creating the need for continuous war, the capitalists continue to avert the eyes of the fools away from the real problem in this world.
 
Blairs in favour of bombing so thats probably a good idea while making assad worm food is a good idea of itself.
Its not really going to help matters now.
 
The prime minister said: "Almost 100 years ago, the whole world came together and said that the use of chemical weapons was morally indefensible and completely wrong. What we have seen in Syria are appalling scenes of death and suffering because of the use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime.
"I don't believe we can let that stand. Of course any action we take, or others take, would have to be legal, would have to be proportionate. It would have to be specifically to deter the future use of chemical weapons.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/27/cameron-clegg-uk-role-syria-strike

So...weapons that kill people and cause appalling scenes of suffering are "morally indefensible and completely wrong", so we need to launch some.....

kinelll....:(
 
I suppose if they could destroy the regime's stockpile of chemical weapons that might not be a bad thing.
 
Just catching up, so may have missed it.

Where is the evidence that links the Assad regime to the chemical attack?
I could have sworn on the radio this morning a UK Gov spokesperson said he (Assad) had done it about ten times already. Seemed a categorical statement, I did wonder about the evidence.
 
Cameron and his cronies are just like schoolboys talking in a playground. They don't realise that the 'knowledge' they have is completely inadequate. When they start to give out their analysis and opinions to the public as justifications for attacking Syria - or anyone else, they have no idea that there are thousands of people who have wiser heads.

Interestingly Cameron has talked of going ahead without UN approval but not mentioned Russia who would be the stumbling block in the UN and more worryingly able and prepared to defend Assad from missile attacks from the West.

I hope Obama has access to wise advice and is not pushed by Cameron in a direction he clearly doesn't want to go in. What a nerve for the tiny UK to try to influence the powerful US. Our self delusions as a world power are dangerous. The days of "punching above our weight" by virtue of having nuclear weapons are long over. Lots of other countries have nuclear weapons now, and we cannot use them in practice - they only work as a bluff, and when the bluff is called we are beaten.
 
Cameron seems quite bullish about this, with his valuable years as a PR consultant and parliamentary aid behind him I am sure we are in safe hands.

[lol]
 
Cameron seems quite bullish about this, with his valuable years as a PR consultant and parliamentary aid behind him I am sure we are in safe hands.

[lol]
Cameron has probably got Blair talking into his ear. Perhaps the Mayans were right but were just a year out in their estimate of the end of the calendar.

Maybe this one will be all over by Christmas. That is to say this world.
 
"A chemical weapons expert tells me any missile strikes on Syria poison gas storage depots will endanger anyone in 1-2km radius, especially downwind." Frank Gardner BBC Security Correspondent
 
There's plenty of video footage of innocent people dying. I'm more than willing to stick my neck out & say they were dying from the effects of a nerve agent.

What evidence is there that this was carried out by the Assad regime? Or do we get to see another fabricated Intelligence dossier from America on Thursday?
 
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