Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Won't prattle on but an interesting thing occurred to me a while back I mentioned.
If a tory voting mail/telegraph reader had caring duties, either to the public or a family emmeber, child etc, the thought would just not occur to me that they might not be up to the job. They might not be up to the job, but the idea of it just wouldn't occur.
Now if one of the hardliners, and they are legion, had caring duties, I honestly Would think twice. That what they are espousing looks and feels so antisocial thay I would honestly worry for vulnerable folk in their care.
It outlined to me how ugly it all is. That I see them as a manifestation of something terrible.
If a tory voting mail/telegraph reader had caring duties, either to the public or a family emmeber, child etc, the thought would just not occur to me that they might not be up to the job. They might not be up to the job, but the idea of it just wouldn't occur.
Now if one of the hardliners, and they are legion, had caring duties, I honestly Would think twice. That what they are espousing looks and feels so antisocial thay I would honestly worry for vulnerable folk in their care.
It outlined to me how ugly it all is. That I see them as a manifestation of something terrible.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Even better, a woman I went to school with was one of those “witches” - she’s so nice, prim and proper that the very idea of doing anything sort-of dark would have her in conniptions!
FridgeMagnet
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I haven't had that anywhere I've been - the worst has been just a few wankers in the supermarket who don't care about masks but are not shouting about it. I've wondered a few times what I'd do if it did happen though.
Probably I'd just not say anything so as not to make it worse - the general "public nutcase" reflex - but tweet about it furiously. If I was in a bad mood already though, or if they were just not letting up (so it would be impossible to make it worse) I could see shouting at them along the lines of "oh for fuck's sake just shut the fuck up and fuck off, people want to do some fucking shopping not listen to your shit, no go on fuck off back to the internet, no shut up with that bollocks, go on piss off, as if life's not fucking hard enough without you cunts".
But in general, really, the best thing is not to respond and just put up with it. It's not like you can actually clear them out or make them stop. If I went off it would just make everyone around me even less comfortable.
rekil
to menny cranks
Just go with something like 'does your mammy know you're out' next time but bear in mind that if it fails to elicit an approving titter from your fellow sheeple You May Well Feel Bad.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Nah, that's OK. You just pause, as if for comic effect, then say, "Ah, though come to think of it, and looking at you, she probably ran away before you were born", turn on your heel and make a smart exit, regardless of titterage.
"The face not even a mother could love. Perhaps a mask would be a smart idea...?"
Glad to have been of assistance
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Sickening that this stuff is spreading to public institutions
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I don't believe it. Don't think you can make that judgement. Some of my friends are like that and good parents. People are fickle. The problem is a lack of an alternative.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Yes, more about my own inner aversion to them than anything concrete. My own projection.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Had I known that was happening in Brighton, I would have been tempted in investing in a few dozen eggs & popping over to meet & greet them.
Is this the commodification of the concept of freedom?
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
it's the freedom to have the option of spreading deadly viruses around, from what I can work out.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I hate people
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
The fuck are they even protesting about? Lockdown is over, and further lifting of restrictions is likely. All those tossers have to do is wait.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
That was done years ago.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They are too fucking thick to notice.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
What about my freedom not to have them in the same pub as me?
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Utterly valid argument imo.
Perrhaps some/all of those people need to educate their own children better, rather than mis-educate themselves
Johnny Doe
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When I said this to a family member who was on obsessing with this stuff a while back, they said "do you really believe they don't plan to lock us down again?"
And obviously because it's a new situation and you can't be sure what will happen, any future lockdown or tightening of rules will prove it always planned. And because there is always more future (?), It can never be proved not to be planned.
fucthest8
Cool people die horrible, preventable deaths.
Nice.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
they do get posted on there but I think most of the planning is more telegram/whatsapp groups and word of mouth between the "believers"
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Just ask them how the last kill the bill they were on went.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
The volunteers using 'honeypot' groups to fight anti-vax propaganda
Volunteers are busting anti-vaccine conspiracy theories with decoy Facebook groups.
www.bbc.co.uk
Richard is a builder, a trainee psychologist - and one half of the duo behind the decoy group. He says he aims not to spread bad information but rather to help people attracted to conspiracy theories.
His friend Dave (not his real name; we've agreed to give him a pseudonym because he fears abuse from anti-vaccine activists) believed in conspiracy theories for the best part of 20 years.
"If I was to actually create a group saying, 'I'm going to re-educate you'... then I'm not going to get any takers," he says.
"So I have to do it in a stealth way, which is a bit underhanded, I suppose. But the intentions are good."
The group's name references Bill Gates and completely unfounded conspiracy theories that the Microsoft founder is plotting to kill millions of people and control them with implanted microchips. And once people are drawn in, the two moderators try to reason with them, to bring them back to reality.
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