That’s literally why and when they introduced these policies?
"Digital driving licence"
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Plastic Paddy
Which policies?
More stringent right to work checks.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
AFAIK, the relevant legislation actually dates from Blair III (2006), but I do remember the practical implications of the implementation seemed to coincide with May's hostile environment.
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Plastic Paddy
Like proving who you are?
That's not stringent. It's a very basic requirement for being allowed into a position of trust.
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The Problem is that vulnerable groups often struggle to provide the necessary ID.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I don't see this as a matter of preventing employers doing anything; quite the opposite. Having accepted that neoliberal capital requires free flows of labour, the state has out-sourced and imposed "right-to-work" check responsibility to employers.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
It doesn't have to be a passport to prove you've a right to work (sorry, I'm aware others are already making this point anyway).
philosophical
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Whatever ‘Brexit’ is supposed to mean, it does not mean the whole of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has left the European Union as voted for.
Can you define the word ‘Brexit’?
I think it is a word that generally means the appalling nightmare and mess that followed the leave victory in an ill defined way, but does not describe the leave victory.
Even a birth certificate and a council tax bill are difficult for someone who is, for example, vulnerably housed, to provide.
philosophical
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If you don’t drive of have digital technology you are not really part of mainstream society, which is probably a good thing.
Do New Age Travellers still exist?
Do New Age Travellers still exist?
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Plastic Paddy
Good.
As an employer, I should be able to check who you are and refuse you employment for a variety of reasons, including the fact that hiring you would be illegal.
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LakieLady
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Facebook know very little about me. They deleted my account for lack of use years ago, and I can't be arsed to sort it out.
I'm sure digital licences will suit some people, but I rather suspect that they won't work on my elderly phone, like loads of other things (looking at you Brighton parking app, and the NHS system that sent me a link to book a flu vaccination that didn't work). And I don't find it any hardship to just keep the plastic licence in my purse, along with my bus pass and bank cards.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The legislation says, as an employer, you have to do these checks on behalf of the HO; you are the unpaid subbie.
LakieLady
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Why should someone who has no need of a passport go to the expense of getting one in order to get a job?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Oooh, get you with your modern, new-fangled plastic licence!
Still one of the few retaining the proper paper licence here!
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
"Digital driving licence"
Sisters dogs got one,... anyway, if your American and you've had the covid vax, your being tracked by the Italians from space..... , I think one of the more knowledgeable members of the US government mentioned it.
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There are a couple of non-passport alternatives accepted, though possibly not without similar costs?
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
As said later, it doesn't need to be a passport specifically. Why should someone give anybody a job who can't prove they are who they say they are?
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Plastic Paddy
They don’t. They need to show ID.
Loads of people who don’t have passports have jobs.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
There have, of course, been many employers more than happy to exploit those unable to provide the right paperwork.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
That's essentially what employers do whether or not you can provide paperwork though.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
yes, but I have seen, first-hand, how (farm-owning/gangmaster) employers can intensify the standard exploitation of labour when they hold the lack of paperwork as a 'sword of Damocles' over migrant labour. In a related theme C4 News did a piece the other evening exploring the extent of undocumented labour in Californian farming and the impact that Trump's threatened deportations would have on the industry.
BristolEcho
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I don't have a passport at the moment and have they accept a driving licence and other bits of paperwork for the DBS check.
It's handy having a driving licence on you when you're out and you need to go to the toilet.
It's handy having a driving licence on you when you're out and you need to go to the toilet.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
It's no difference to the people who do their shopping and then look almost surprised they have to pay and take an age to find their wallet in their bag and then find the money.
The problem here is not technology.
BristolEcho
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The problem is people not being patient.
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Plastic Paddy
That's a completely different matter. There'll always be bastards out to exploit any system. That's not a reason to avoid measures that provide more advantages than disadvantages. It's a reason to enact measures to crack down on the bastards.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Of course, the farmy bastards outsource the risk of prosecution to the gangmaster/agencies and then turn a blind eye.
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