Democratic? No public enquiry on the 7/7 bombings.

[sparticus]

... us mere mortals are too stupid/too terminally gullible/too brainwashed to see for ourselves.QUOTE]

That's right keep deliberately distorting people's arguments and positions. That is what you are doing.

I stand by that statement that only the terminally gullible rule out the POSSIBILITY of western intelligence agents could have been involved in 7/7. To rule out the possibility is to be woefully ignorant or in denial of this country's history.

Meanwhile I have put forward no theory, just supported the call for an INQUIRY

 

[Pickman's model]

There is no evidence to suggest <real name removed: editor> wasn't genuine.

yeh...

nothing, except the facts.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

... us mere mortals are too stupid/too terminally gullible/too brainwashed to see for ourselves.QUOTE]

That's right keep deliberately distorting people's arguments and positions. That is what you are doing.

I stand by that statement that only the terminally gullible rule out the POSSIBILITY of western intelligence agents could have been involved in 7/7. To rule out the possibility is to be woefully ignorant or in denial of this country's history.

Meanwhile I have put forward no theory, just supported the call for an INQUIRY

Fine its' a possbility, and while we're at it the titanic could have been sunk by a meteor too.

There is no credible reason to belive that any intelegence service had any part in causing the attacks (directly, let's leave invading iraq elsewhere). It could have happened, but only a terminally gullible idiot would belive that a western intelegence service did have an active part with the utter lack of evidence availible.

There is no need for an independant inquiry.

Your Servant

Bob_the_lost

Secret service, domestic opression department

 

[Jazzz]

...
You have now seen the extent of my contact with her, and I hope a line can now be drawn. This is a rubbish situation. In fact, after you've read the post I'm deleting it.

The situation is extremely pertinent - since the very thing you are complaining about happened in the worst way to <real name removed: editor> AND IT WAS LEFT TO ME TO DEFEND HER. I'm glad we can clear this up. Since we are publishing private correspondence, I received this pm from Stobart early on

"I aksed her some stuff in pm's and she slipped up, I am not going to forward it to anyone as it's not fair, just let it go, she was either a journalist trying to hit on Badger Kitten, or just some nutter out on some sort of sick sympathy trip."

The 'slipping up' was a reference to the copy of the IPCC statement of course - she hadn't 'slipped up' at all.

However, if you check the dates I am sure will you find that your comment that I was 'stirring' was well in advance of you receiving the out-of-the-blue comment from ST.

I told ST about my exchange with SS and that is what prompted her communication with you.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

yeh...

nothing, except the facts.

Heh, that was one of your best posts this year PM.

 

[Yossarian]

I know going on the internet and complaining about conspiracy-obsessed oddballs is a bit like going into Tesco and complaining about all the baked beans, but there's some right fuckwits on this thread, sure enough.

 

[Pickman's model]

Heh, that was one of your best posts this year PM.

it's a pity that most of the rest of this year's offerings have found their way into the secret forum of the black lagoon, from which few threads return intact.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Right, I think you were stirring then and stirring now, and now you have seen the messages from her to me on another board I am deleting the post.

I repeat, I was nice to the woman, never challenged her, did not especially want to get into conversation with her, but never blew her cover when she changed boards, and was pissed off to get the franky wierd email about lawyers - and her saying she was sending over ''copies of all our correspndence.'' As if I ever wanted to correspond with her! She was the one sending me PMs! I don't flipping well know her, have not met her, and my opinions about the veracity or otherwise of her story I shall not reveal to you or anyone else since to do so would involve releasing details that are genuinely personal for her and for me, and should not be shared, and in any case it is nobody's business. I resent parallels being drawn with her and me, and this whole thing is distasteful in the extreme.

And wildly off topic.

And a good way to avoid the points people have been making about you beign a conspiracist, dissembling and trying to make yourself out to be some kind of victim and defender of victims. Can we go back to the thread, and can you and the other people who are so sure that 7/7 was ''a black -op'' conspracy kindly present some evidence for this that excuses why the word of a survivor and contact of close on 100 people who were directly involved is apparentky suoperflous to the ''real truth'' which only qwerty, prole and the other conspiracy theorists can handle.

Even though as we point out ad anuseam they have no evidence to support their conjecturings whatsoever?

 

[Pickman's model]

ad anuseam

 

[Jazzz]

I'm afraid her 'reputation' here was all of her own making.

I wasn't even contributing to the boards at the time, so you can't even whine and blame me for it either!

Why do you think so many people had problems with her posts here? Any idea?

Yes I do. Her story of the number of shots (an amount way in excess of the number held by the police and other witnesses) and the reluctance of the IPCC to properly take her statement (being weird about the stairs at Stockwell tube', trying to forget about the number of shots which she had to demand to be included) may have seemed hard to believe for some. Yet she turned out to be completely accurate.

Stobart Spotter thought she couldn't have a copy of her IPCC statement, this was bollocks.

I suspect Mrs Magpie formed an initial impression of her and the rest is the product of 'small town gossip' in its worst form.

That you are now defending the appalling actions of your moderating team based on nothing more than the volume of groundless tittle-tattle surrounding Sue is, I must say, irresponsibly shameful. You have repeatedly informed me that 'I don't know the full story'. Yet we do now know the full story. SHE WAS GENUINE and there is no evidence to the contrary.

Perhaps people will now realise the extent to which I have campaigned for her. Badger Kitten seems incredibly concerned about her own reputation for telling a truthful account, extending it to include the official narrative, yet seems happy to see a fellow urbanite in the same boat get utterly savaged (nothing to do with her). I find that upsetting.

It is already way past the time to admit that you have no reason for doubting a single word of Sue Thomason's postings here on urban.

 

[Badger Kitten]

ha, meant ad nauseam, but ad anuseam translation: anus-drizzle is perhaps a new and fortuitious translation of my made up doglatin word

 

[Kid_Eternity]

it's a pity that most of the rest of this year's offerings have found their way into the secret forum of the black lagoon, from which few threads return intact.

LOL! Must of been those Black Op helicoptors flown by lizards...

 

[butchersapron]

Right, this then is the thread that Jazz gets outed as being far more than a simple observer of the events he posts his claptrap about - it's clear now that he's actively seeking to manipulate and influence the behaviour of other people involved from behind the scenes. Dangerous territory Jazz.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Indeed. I'm almost frightened to ask.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Right, this then is the thread that Jazz gets outed as being far more than a simple observer of the events he posts his claptrap about - it's clear now that he's actively seeking to manipulate and influence the behaviour of other people involved from behind the scenes. Dangerous territory Jazz.

Yeah, or ''stirring'' in other words.

Meanwhile, back in the thread where we all wait for the evidence to suppoirt the black ops theory....

 

[Yossarian]

The suethomason affair was quite a while ago and her posts are buried deep in 1,000-post-long threads - I'm inclined to take the view that if Dr Jazzz believes her story, she was probably making the whole thing up.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Right, this then is the thread that Jazz gets outed as being far more than a simple observer of the events he posts his claptrap about - it's clear now that he's actively seeking to manipulate and influence the behaviour of other people involved from behind the scenes. Dangerous territory Jazz.

Yep and fucked up; if true he's using a women who's doesn't appear totally stable mentally.

 

[Pickman's model]

*taps watch*

 

[Badger Kitten]

Indeed. I'm almost frightened to ask.

See upthread

 

[Kid_Eternity]

See upthread

Yeah I caught that after my machine froze and attempted to double post...

 

[Badger Kitten]

*taps watch*

*whistles, shuffles feet inpatiently*




*yawns*















Any evidence at all then? Coming, ever?

 

[Pickman's model]

The ST affair was quite a while ago and her posts are buried deep in 1,000-post-long threads - I'm inclined to take the view that if Dr Jazzz believes her story, she was probably making the whole thing up.

from the looks of things, the <real name removed: editor> nonsense is hidden amongst the reeds in the secret black lagoon forum.

 

[Pickman's model]

Any evidence at all then? Coming, ever?

*checks timetable*

should be some along shortly, if it's a wednesday.

 

[Jazzz]

and my opinions about the veracity or otherwise of her story I shall not reveal to you or anyone else since to do so would involve releasing details that are genuinely personal for her and for me

This is breathtaking chutzpah considering the extent with which you launched into publishing your private correspondence with her.

You have absolutely nothing to suggest she was lying - nor has anyone else, because she was there - yet are trying to imply that maybe you kind of know something which you can't reveal.

Jesus.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Anyway, enough about her, where's the evidence for the black ops?

where? where? where? are we nearly there yet? etc etc

 

[Pickman's model]

You have absolutely nothing to suggest she was lying - nor has anyone else, because she was there - yet are trying to imply that maybe you kind of know something which you can't reveal.

her fucking story changed every time i was bored enough to pay attention to it - which was several times, i can tell you.

 

[Badger Kitten]

This is breathtaking chutzpah considering the extent with which you launched into publishing your private correspondence with her.

You have absolutely nothing to suggest she was lying - nor has anyone else, because she was there - yet are trying to imply that maybe you kind of know something which you can't reveal.

Jesus.

There was nothing in that correspondence that I am ashamed of. Nor should she be, since she claimed to be sending it all over to a lawyer.

 

[Jazzz]

Right, this then is the thread that Jazz gets outed as being far more than a simple observer of the events he posts his claptrap about - it's clear now that he's actively seeking to manipulate and influence the behaviour of other people involved from behind the scenes. Dangerous territory Jazz.

She was distressed at her treatment here! When I met her (which was after bk accused me of 'stirring') I told her that one of the pieces of gossip going around was that 'she was trying to hit on badger kitten'. She was completely at a loss to understand the affair. I'm surprised she sent the message that she did to bk, but understandably wanted to make that clear in case it was something bk had thought herself.

Her treatment her was absolutely shocking. She was publicly accused of making the whole thing up. No-one has ever produced any good evidence for this assertion.

 

[dylanredefined]

You mean jazz is a lizard ? why would the evil western intelligence services blow up tube trains ?
Deranged muslim wannabe martyrs seem quite happy to blow up anyone
they can .Colation soldiers ,policemen ,Ordinary iraqes etc .
Jazz if the enquiry was held and it found it was delusional misguided idiots who blew themselves up would you believe it or would you go
on like the kennedy assasinations buffs for the next 40 yrs ?

 

[Jazzz]

her fucking story changed every time i was bored enough to pay attention to it - which was several times, i can tell you.

No it did not, Pickman's. Her account is still here - find me a single change.