Democratic? No public enquiry on the 7/7 bombings.

[Kid_Eternity]

No-one has ever produced any good evidence for this assertion.

I find it shocking that you dare have any surprise about a lack of evidence given your aversion to actually presenting any to back up your "theories".

 

[Pickman's model]

No it did not, Pickman's. Her account is still here - find me a single change.

it would help if a search for her turned up anything.

post up yr link, please.

 

[Jazzz]

There was nothing in that correspondence that I am ashamed of. Nor should she be, since she claimed to be sending it all over to a lawyer.

Good, I think we have established that there is nothing in it to suggest that she was not a witness to the shooting of Charles de Menezes. I am sorry that you appear to have a laissez-faire approach to the reputation of other trauma victims here on urban. It should now be clear to you that the case against her was simply gossip.

Were someone to accuse you of lying I would step in to defend you. That is not 'stirring'.

 

[Pickman's model]

oi! jazzz! link!

 

[butchersapron]

She was distressed at her treatment here! When I met her (which was after bk accused me of 'stirring') I told her that one of the pieces of gossip going around was that 'she was trying to hit on badger kitten'. She was completely at a loss to understand the affair. I'm surprised she sent the message that she did to bk, but understandably wanted to make that clear in case it was something bk had thought herself.

Yes, i'm absolutely sure we're getting the full picture from you aren't we?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

it would help if a search for her turned up anything.

post up yr link, please.

When did you become such an optimist? Expecting evidence from a conspiraloon is like expecting honesty from a politician!

 

[Badger Kitten]

She was distressed at her treatment here! When I met her (which was after bk accused me of 'stirring') I told her that one of the pieces of gossip going around was that 'she was trying to hit on badger kitten'. She was completely at a loss to understand the affair. I'm surprised she sent the message that she did to bk, but understandably wanted to make that clear in case it was something bk had thought herself.

Her treatment her was absolutely shocking. She was publicly accused of making the whole thing up. No-one has ever produced any good evidence for this assertion.

Right, so you pass gossip onto her, which I know nothing about, after I have welcomed her to a new board and kept her secrets and given her friendly advice about the place - I had posted there for years, its a small board and I know many of the posters in real life - and then she, as as result of your tales, then sends me a disturbing email out of the blue about claims that she is ''stalking'' me and 'libel' and saying she is sending ''all our correspondence'' to her lawyer - a clear threat, which shocked and disturbed me - the clear implication being that I have been malcious and libelling her when I had done nothing of the sort.


Right. And you get fucked off when I accuse you of stirring. Jesus.

What the bloody hell was that if not stirring and idle tittle tattle of the worst kind? You saw the messages, you saw the consequences, what the fuck am I supposed to think when I get that sort of thing in my message box?

I hope you are pleased with your self. Well, at least we have cleared up why she sent me such an odd email on that occasion.


And when are you going to get back to the thread topic and stop your conflating of the championing of this woman with being some kind of fearess truth seeker?

The evidence, remember? The witness accounts, the sources?

Which we have waited 14 pages for?

 

[Jazzz]

oi! jazzz! link!

Blimey I can't write replies to bk in ten seconds.

Her posts can now be found under the account of 'rappunnzel'.

I find this distasteful though, because this is going over stuff we have already sorted out.

 

[Badger Kitten]

ha! Distasteful!

You bloody started it!

Answer the questions that are on topic then. Where's the bloody evidence for the black ops theory?

Come on. We've waited 14 pages.

 

[Pickman's model]

Blimey I can't write replies to bk in ten seconds.

Her posts can now be found under the account of 'rappunnzel'.

I find this distasteful though, because this is going over stuff we have already sorted out.

sort it aart!

 

[Jazzz]

bk - as I have said, it's extremely disturbing to witness a traumatic event and then be told that you are making the whole thing up to get attention.

When you are the subject of a load of gossip you want to find out what is going on. We know some were gossiping that she was some nutcase trying to hit on you.

It's good you weren't part of that.

You repeatedly say how bad it is that you, a trauma victim, has their account called into question.

So now that even editor is distancing himself from the shocking treatment handed out to Sue, you more than anyone should care about this being sorted out.

Pickman's Model seems to be the last person claiming to have any reason to suspect the ST was not genuine. I will consider a line drawn under the event when her reputation is restored.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Good, I think we have established that there is nothing in it to suggest that she was not a witness to the shooting of Charles de Menezes. I am sorry that you appear to have a laissez-faire approach to the reputation of other trauma victims here on urban. It should now be clear to you that the case against her was simply gossip.

Were someone to accuse you of lying I would step in to defend you. That is not 'stirring'.

The correspondence I published, for a limited time was not about Stockwell, so stop trying to make it look as if we are arguing about her being there or not.

She piled in with accusations that she was stalking me, out of the blue ( we now discover it was because jazz told her someone said she was stalking me) and I asked her not to contact me again.

Stockwell was never discussed, I have always avoided the subject with her, I did not want to be drawn into correspondence, private or public about it, as she seemed disturbed and I did not see the value of correspondence between her and myself about traumatic incidents, I advised her to seek professional help instead.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pickman's Model seems to be the last person claiming to have any reason to suspect the <real name removed: editor> was not genuine. I will consider a line drawn under the event when her reputation is restored.

you've been at the r w chambers again, ain't you?

 

[Jazzz]

I hope you are pleased with your self. Well, at least we have cleared up why she sent me such an odd email on that occasion.

Yes isn't that good? I think you are missing the point here which is that SHE suffered greatly from the gossip that she was trying to hit on you, or whatever, which was real gossip (not some 'tale' I was making up). She was trying to work out where all this had come from. I accept that bit had nothing to do with you, and will tell her - I'm glad of that.

I've just been trying to get to the bottom of all this, because she was really hurt by the whole affair, and I think considering the circumstances I've done a bloody good job of it now even editor has nothing to say about it.

I think if you are only concerned about receiving a strange email here that is a great shame.

I put myself on the line defending her. As I am sure you would like others to do for you in the same situation.

 

[Pickman's model]

what makes you think she has a reputation to refurbish?

 

[Badger Kitten]

So, (refuses to play ball with this tangent anymore) no evidence to support the black ops theory, Jazzz? Anyone?

I can see a narrative arc. looming .. I bet £5 the answer will be

''no, and that is why I want a public independent enquiry''.

And then we can all go to the pub.

 

[Pickman's model]

i don't want to go to the pub.

having said that, i don't want to sit here longer than strictly necessary either.

 

[Jazzz]

Mrs Magpie at one point referred to the actions taken as being necessary to 'protect badger kitten'.

I think that is worth mentioning also.

 

[Pickman's model]

Mrs Magpie at one point referred to the actions taken as being necessary to 'protect badger kitten'.

I think that is worth mentioning also.

why?

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Mrs Magpie at one point referred to the actions taken as being necessary to 'protect badger kitten'.

I think that is worth mentioning also.

You may be the only one who does.

 

[Jazzz]

I think you will have to ask Mrs Magpie that. But I suspect it shows ridiculous gossip in line with the pm I received from Stobart.

I am very sorry that badger kitten does not seem to care about sorting this out, as she is so ready to accuse others of making her out to be a liar (which they are not).

 

[Badger Kitten]

Can we all move on? I dont know sue and I don't see any point getting involved with her traumas and her treatment and have never done so and do not want to now. She was clearly disturbed over the summer, fair enough, she should get help, off a professional, not me. I can;t help her, comment on her, as I do not know the woman.

Hardly surprising, a proper inquiry would reveal 7/7 to be the black op that it was

Page one, second post, still not answered, quite bored now, 16 pages later, anyine going to have a bash? No? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 

[Jazzz]

Pathetic, badger kitten.

Before I brought this up, you were posting 'last in', so one can only assume that you didn't see a need to take the thread any further.

<real name removed: editor> is a fellow urbanite trauma victim. I am glad to finally restore her slurred reputation. I am again sorry that you don't care about that.

 

[Jazzz]

Now I see you are editing your posts to pre-answer mine. That is really low bk.

edited to add - actually your edit hit one minute after mine, that may have been unintentional.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Last in? Where?

I keep saying that I don't know her so I don't know whether her reputation is slurred as I was not involved.

I am involved withother trauma victims from the event sof July but not her. I can't be involved with every trauma victim in the world, and indeed I did not think it at all advisable for us to get involved with each other. Stop trying to make me her ally or her enemy, I am neither. And I think it is patheitic of you, Jazzz to bring it up as a tangent to make yourself appear some kind of champion of trauma victims and seeker of the truth and then to not answer any of the bloody questions about what this thread is about ie your assertion that 7/7 was ablack op in the face of all evidence to the contrary from people I have no reason to mistrust.

Whereas what possible damn reason do i have to trust you?

Honestly, give me one. Based on what has come out about you encouraging a woman I don't know to accuse me of accusing her of stalking? FFS, what utter crap.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Now I see you are editing your posts to pre-answer mine. That is really low bk.

No I type faster than you and I was tidying up my spelling mistakes, mr paranoid.

 

[Jazzz]

No I type faster than you and I was tidying up my spelling mistakes, mr paranoid.

Actually your edit was far more significant that that, but I accepted that it was only a minute after my post hit.

It involved adding this section

" I dont know sue and I don't see any point getting involved with her traumas and her treatment and have never done so and do not want to now. She was clearly disturbed over the summer, fair enough, she should get help, off a professional, not me. I can;t help her, comment on her, as I do not know the woman."

Which I note contains a glaring typo.

 

[Badger Kitten]

You are never, ever going to answer the question about black ops are you?


What else can we use as a distraction? Any more tangents?

Edit: I was sorting out the typos and I decided to add more to the post, I don't think you had posted anything at that stage. You may note that when editing a post you can only see that post, not the ones before it. Yes, there are still typos, you should have seen it before.

Tangent!

 

[Jazzz]

Last in? Where?

I refer to your own post #294, entitled 'last in the tin foil shelter'. Which included a frivolous picture.

Adding whole sections of post is not the same as correcting spelling mistakes. Nor is typing speed (I'm hardly a slow typist) an issue of any importance.

Clearly you just want to indulge in point scoring, and the reputation of a fellow urbanite who got involved in terror events and roundly set upon these very boards is of no concern to you.

 

[dylanredefined]

obviously the bombs were underneath the trains and were meant to go off on 9/11 but the timers were dodgy and got forgotten about . Only the guy on the bus was a genuine sucide bomber .This conspricy crap is fun who cares if it annoys people who have suffred or allows the truth to be hidden .