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David Cameron's son dies, aged 6

Its honest, not cliched. I may disagree with the "I cannot feel anything because it is a betrayal of class" etc etc but not with the "I do not feel anything" sentiment.

The death of Cameron's son is a tragedy for him and his family, but there are probably dozens of dads and families in exactly the same position as him today whose children's deaths will pass unnoticed and unmourned by the vast majority of the populace.

Nah it's almost certainly cliched, he's decided that it's some sort of political principle to feel nothing in this case. It's hackneyed, cliched crap.

Agree with the second para.
 
Nor much of a human being, if being human has anything to do with empathy.

i do have empathy rage and anger, i need only look at how the working class are treated in the world we live, only need to look and read the biggeted comments made on this post towords me due to the fact i was honest enough to say i do not give a shit, but there is no empathy towords the likes of Cameron only rage and anger, and i know a hard reality for some people, it might seem a lack of humanity, what if i said allright i feel some sadnass, i would be lieing and not been true to myself.
 
i do have empathy rage and anger, i need only look at how the working class are treated in the world we live, only need to look and read the biggeted comments made on this post towords me due to the fact i was honest enough to say i do not give a shit, but there is no empathy towords the likes of Cameron only rage and anger, and i know a hard reality for some people, it might seem a lack of humanity, what if i said allright i feel some sadnass, i would be lieing and not been true to myself.

But this is a child who knows nothing about politics, nothing about class, do you not feel any empathy for him?
 
i do have empathy rage and anger, i need only look at how the working class are treated in the world we live, only need to look and read the biggeted comments made on this post towords me due to the fact i was honest enough to say i do not give a shit, but there is no empathy towords the likes of Cameron only rage and anger, and i know a hard reality for some people, it might seem a lack of humanity, what if i said allright i feel some sadnass, i would be lieing and not been true to myself.

...and then connect them, don't seperate them.
 
...and then connect them, don't seperate them.

but we must separate the issue of class, it might seem harsh to bring it round to this, but lets be in the real world shall we?

as said there will be mothers fathers who have lost there little ones, some far younger older and ive no doubt due to the class injustice of the world we live in, so some Tory Scum bag losses a child and what we all feel for him all of a sudden, as well you know I deal in the real world and some posters I smell the whiff of bullshit, see the crocodile tears..

one is not about to forget my anarchism or my class pride, and begin have any feeling for The Likes of Cameron no matter the bullshit and crocodile tears of others, it matters not one bit to me.

what matters to be is some people seem to forget what this scum bag stands for, what this scum upholds seeing the everyday struggle of the working class, idd be fucking them over if I did show any feelings, as said I aint going to compromise my anarchism.
 
Its honest, not cliched. I may disagree with the "I cannot feel anything because it is a betrayal of class" etc etc but not with the "I do not feel anything" sentiment.

The death of Cameron's son is a tragedy for him and his family, but there are probably dozens of dads and families in exactly the same position as him today whose children's deaths will pass unnoticed and unmourned by the vast majority of the populace.

I'm not going to mourn for Cameron's son, but being aware of his death I feel some sympathy. It doesn't mean his death is any more or less tragic than the death of any child, but as Cameron is a public figure it's been brought to our attention, that's the difference.
 
going on about "class pride" and not giving a shit about a child's death kind of misses the point about what its all about imo. the working class aren't an ethnic group and being concerned for the working class, being left wing, an anarchist a socialist isn't anything to do with "identity" and doesn't mean you have to adopt some quasi racialised shite.

i understand where you're coming from but i think you've got it very wrong

i also think that with any event like this - seeing as he's the 3rd most important person in the country, is obviously going to be newsworthy, and i agree with most of what butchers has said here ...
 
going on about "class pride" and not giving a shit about a child's death kind of misses the point about what its all about imo. the working class aren't an ethnic group and being concerned for the working class, being left wing, an anarchist a socialist isn't anything to do with "identity" and doesn't mean you have to adopt some quasi racialised shite.

i understand where you're coming from but i think you've got it very wrong

i also think that with any event like this - seeing as he's the 3rd most important person in the country, is obviously going to be newsworthy, and i agree with most of what butchers has said here ...

doesn't it? Poor kid.
 
I'm not going to mourn for Cameron's son, but being aware of his death I feel some sympathy. It doesn't mean his death is any more or less tragic than the death of any child, but as Cameron is a public figure it's been brought to our attention, that's teh difference.

Thats my point, all the interest devoted to it does tend to inflate this tragedy beyond a familial one to something considerably larger that has the potential to (and I am not saying it has been or it will) be used for political ends, to conceal some of his more objectionable views and policies.
 
Debatable.

who are you to give such a medical insight?

going on about "class pride" and not giving a shit about a child's death kind of misses the point about what its all about imo. the working class aren't an ethnic group and being concerned for the working class, being left wing, an anarchist a socialist isn't anything to do with "identity" and doesn't mean you have to adopt some quasi racialised shite.

i understand where you're coming from but i think you've got it very wrong

i also think that with any event like this - seeing as he's the 3rd most important person in the country, is obviously going to be newsworthy, and i agree with most of what butchers has said here ...

in context I agree with butchers and you have said, no the working class are not an ethnic group, of course being an anarchist is to with "identity" and never would I as a white person adopt some quasi racialised shite, I grew up in the 1970s of england and right through my life I have seen the impact of class, how it creates racism (another subject agreed)

of course it is going to be newsworthy, but we must not out of fear of upsetting anyone keep out mouths shut neither, this is where the problems arise, we must point out the bullshit and lies. not give the thought we all give a shit, explain why we do not give a shit, take it as an opportunity to put across our politics as they no doubt will, and we see the 6 0 clock news tonight G Brown etc. offers his etc., more lies more propaganda we need to challenge, not be complicit with in our silence..
 
Easy to point out ther bullshit without succumbing to it.

Victory to society.

Each post that says fuck off, fuck 'em is a vote for thatcher.
 
Fuck sake guys leave the bickering for another thread.

Terrible for anyone to lose a child. R.I.P. :(
 
Easy to point out ther bullshit without succumbing to it.

Victory to society.

Each post that says fuck off, fuck 'em is a vote for thatcher.

Is it that easy to point it out though? This article has appeared on the Guardian's website today. Does anyone think a Cameron-led Tory Government will improve the NHS, or support services for carers?
 
Appalling to lose a child and he has my sympathy while he is off dealing with it. If and when he resumes his campaign to make the world a worse place than it is, the sympathy will be gone. It would be misplaced.

The moralistic types on this thread who wish to tell people how to react should get back to nobbing and sobbing and find some brackets.
 
I think in cases like this there should be two threads, one to leave condolences and the other for fuckwits like e19382029394 to make a bad name for themselves.

what becuase you disagree with my anarchism and desire not to have the debate on what this raises, youe make the crass asumption one is makeing a BAD NAME for himself, oh do fuck off and patranise someone else, i have issues very forthcoiming on them, but it dose not mean i do not hold a thought, or a desire to change the shit i find myself within, would you now care to wipe my mouth, be warned it is like my backside full of shit, or so you would have the world think,
 
what becuase you disagree with my anarchism and desire not to have the debate on what this raises, youe make the crass asumption one is makeing a BAD NAME for himself, oh do fuck off and patranise someone else, i have issues very forthcoiming on them, but it dose not mean i do not hold a thought, or a desire to change the shit i find myself within, would you now care to wipe my mouth, be warned it is like my backside full of shit, or so you would have the world think,

Oh get off your high horse you weird little person. Anarchist my ball bag.
 
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