My God, that's going back a ways now. When I was young and cruel.
I still see a bit of Doug Henwood and a few others, Annalee dragged me round the lap-dancing clubs of North Beach... I could tell you the stories but then I'd have to kill you...
critique of loon theories around banking/money creation/the federal reserve
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My God, that's going back a ways now. When I was young and cruel.
I still see a bit of Doug Henwood and a few others, Annalee dragged me round the lap-dancing clubs of North Beach... I could tell you the stories but then I'd have to kill you...
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
That's right, just evade all the questions people have been asking and the antisemitic sources and 'relax'. And stop using 'we'. I don't think anyone is agreeing with you at all.
Not really.
They've passed through the denial and anger, and most of them are over the bargaining stage too. Although depression's still a problem for some of them, they mostly arrived at acceptance 3 or 4 pages ago.
okay, deal.
(note: responses to Sihhi are based on his sources)Are you contesting that money is created by banks out of thin air? After all, this is subject of the thread.
Don't you start.
I hope so Phil. I don't know how best to deal with helping people through cognitive dissonance. I suppose it is something a grieving process. I am probably too attached to the debate. But I want people to get it, you know? They don't have to thank me, or admit I was right.
I guess that is what this thread is really. "How can we cleverly readjust our belief system, now we really know that something is totally fucked up with the banks, in a way that doesn't actually admit the lunatics were the sane ones after all?"
Not only will they not do that, they will soon tell you that it was them who were saying that the banks create money out of thin air, and you who were denying it.
That's what people are like.
I don't think ordinary people have ever been in any doubt that money is entirely illusory. As I said before, that's about as obvious as anything gets.
So obviously educated people have never doubted it either.
The people who doubt it are the half-educated, the gullible, easily-indoctrinated, those who've taken a degree in 'economics,' those who scour Wikipedia for 'interesting tidbits,' those who think they've learned a thing or two about how the world works scientifically like. Those are the mad ones.
JimW
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You are a card; someone engages you and Jazz on your bizzarro ground, and surprise surprise the terminology that comes with the territory sounds weird and obsessive. It ought to be a sobering moment for you Phil, but I know it won't be.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Why did they need bailing out?
Get out of here Blagsta you Nazi scum.
Jazzz can look after himself.
But I'd like you to inform me why you think Sihhi's mad obsession with Jews has anything to do with me.
See here's the thing. No-one was talking about "the Jews." I wasn't, Jazzz wasn't, I don't remember anyone with a decent economic analysis doing so (as you'd expect).
Who comes along and tries to make this all about "the Jews?"
Who does that? Who does it in general? Who does it here? And why do they do it?
Who comes along and tries to make this all about "the Jews?"
Who does that? Who does it in general? Who does it here? And why do they do it?
This is me then is it? It's not Sihhi, it's me. Is it?
Actually, forget it. I'm not getting sucked in to Sihhiland and nor should you.
Leave these unfortunates to their obsessions.
This is a very good book on usury today. Has anyone here read it, or perhaps any other such book?
http://www.amazon.com/Predator-Nation-Corporate-Criminals-Corruption/dp/030795255X/ref=pd_cp_b_3
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Ethnic nalgocrat
"Cicero will have his tongue cut out, Copernicus will have his eyes put out, Shakespeare will be stoned - that's Shigalovism."
Fyodor Dostoevsky, Devils
That's Sihhi that is.
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Ethnic nalgocrat
Since all those mentioned are already dead, I'm guessing the speaker is talking metaphorically, i.e. it's not real.
Oh it's real alright. Remind you of anyone?
"He rejects morality itself altogether, and holds with the last new principle of general destruction for the sake of ultimate good. He demands already more than a hundred million heads for the establishment of common sense in Europe; many more than they demanded at the last Peace Congress. Alexey Nilitch goes further than anyone in that sense."
The engineer listened with a pale and contemptuous smile. For half a minute every one was silent.
"All this is stupid, Liputin," Mr. Kirillov observed at last, with a certain dignity.
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Ethnic nalgocrat
I think you're guilty of magical thinking here.
Very good.
But seriously, it's an insight into the kind of mentality that would dismiss Cicero as an "anti-barbarian slave-owner." It's an insight into what that mentality is capable of doing if it ever gets near power. It was written over 50 years before it came true.
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Ethnic nalgocrat
Are there any other slave owners who you think get a free pass because they said some nice things? Thomas Jefferson? I think he's already been quoted as an anti-banker.
Every document of civilization is also a document of barbarism.
If you ever forget that, you will soon get raving maniacs saying this:
"God is the pain of the fear of death. He who overcomes pain and fear will himself become God. Then there will be a new life, a new man, everything new ... Then history will be divided into two parts: from the gorilla to the destruction of God, and from the destruction of God to..."
"To the gorilla?"
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Ethnic nalgocrat
That's why barbarism and civilization aren't useful categories. Or at least, not ones that can be assigned moral worth.
SpineyNorman
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Yes. Everyone sane is doing that.
The only ones not doing so are Dwyer the increasingly obvious and boring troll (he may have been good once but well...) and you.
SpineyNorman
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The irony in this post is enough to make your eyes bleed.
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I'm not going to relax while you're spreading dangerous nonsense about an international banking conspiracy
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
THEY do
Do you not believe in the existence of an international banking conspiracy then?
Actually "conspiracy" is the wrong word, because it implies secrecy. But the banks have been stealing the world quite openly, they don't need to bother with secrecy, because no-one seems to care what they do.
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