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Since that article gives transmission details we dont tend to get in the UK, I'm going to borrow it to make a point on the UK thread, cheers for highlighting it.
 
Reproduction number across the UK now estimated at around 1.3, largely courtesy of B.1.617.2.
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Chile seeing a surge in cases again despite having fully vaccinated a greater proportion of the population than the UK (and a comparable proportion single dosed). The established P.1 (20J/501Y.V3) being squeezed by some 'other' variant(s).
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Why are the B.1.617.x variants swooping down from above in the first chart? :confused:
 
That sounds a bit silly - what do they call the next variant of concern? Lambda means they're not in logical order.
 
Chile using lots of Sinovac which they estimate to be only 3% effective with one dose (Covid-19: Chinese vaccines may need changes to improve efficacy, admits official).
Over all 56.5% efficacy to infection at two weeks post second dose for the entire vaccination program (7% BNT162b2, 93% CoronaVac), with around 54% efficacy attributed to CoronaVac.
 
Reproduction number across the UK now estimated at around 1.3, largely courtesy of B.1.617.2.
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Chile seeing a surge in cases again despite having fully vaccinated a greater proportion of the population than the UK (and a comparable proportion single dosed). The established P.1 (20J/501Y.V3) being squeezed by some 'other' variant(s).
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Geez, is that saying the reproduction rate for delta is over 1.5 everywhere? It looks to be about 1.7, in fact? If so, given its dominance, that’s the figure we should be concentrating on as it will be driving R in the coming weeks. And that’s frightening — when we had R=1.7 before, we rapidly ended up overwhelmed.
 
Geez, is that saying the reproduction rate for delta is over 1.5 everywhere? It looks to be about 1.7, in fact? If so, given its dominance, that’s the figure we should be concentrating on as it will be driving R in the coming weeks. And that’s frightening — when we had R=1.7 before, we rapidly ended up overwhelmed.

Let’s hope those vaccines unlock the relationship between cases and serious disease. With a low percentage of the population double dosed the gov need to be really careful at this point.
 
Let’s hope those vaccines unlock the relationship between cases and serious disease. With a low percentage of the population double dosed the gov need to be really careful at this point.
I am not seeing any signs that gov is going to be careful.
 
Geez, is that saying the reproduction rate for delta is over 1.5 everywhere? It looks to be about 1.7, in fact? If so, given its dominance, that’s the figure we should be concentrating on as it will be driving R in the coming weeks. And that’s frightening — when we had R=1.7 before, we rapidly ended up overwhelmed.
A separate estimate (beware confounders) which might also suggest R0 in the region of 1.6-1.8 (1.4-2.0) for England.
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And again, combining Sanger, COG-UK and T&T data: Re[B.1.617.2] ~1.55 (1.39-1.73).

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Transmission advantage 75% — well more than the disaster scenario of 50% modelled by Warwick earlier this year that suggested a big third wave.

If we were still dealing with alpha, this suggests that our current rules would have been fine (R<1 in this model). But delta is a completely different beast. I’m seriously worried by this.
 
Ah, one of the only reasons I looked into the Daily Mail thing was because it sounded like they'd gotten the info from someone in government.

I now see this:

There is also "a sort of Nepal mutation of the so-called Indian variant which has been detected, and we just don't know the potential for that to be a vaccine defeating mutation," Shapps says.

That quote is from the 16:22 update on the BBC live updates page https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57340860
 
I spend every other week sitting in a room with terminal patients. One of the depressing things about COVID is the idea that people like me, my friends, family and elderly relatives should take one for the team and die.



Matt makes taxpayers money from this scheme Homepage - British Business Bank

If I had any political or social media influence I'd really like to ask the government why he deserves any of dying peoples taxes.

Awful human.
 
I spend every other week sitting in a room with terminal patients. One of the depressing things about COVID is the idea that people like me, my friends, family and elderly relatives should take one for the team and die.



Matt makes taxpayers money from this scheme Homepage - British Business Bank

If I had any political or social media influence I'd really like to ask the government why he deserves any of dying peoples taxes.

Awful human.

shame you can't easily leave a comment on thier website, not that I think the rest of them would care.
 
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