Coronavirus: music festivals, big gigs, sports events and big gatherings - going ahead and cancelled

[platinumsage]

An example - I book crew and generally look after a 120 capacity “indie” venue.

So, woohoo, assuming B’ham drops to tier 2 we can open at 50 capacity. For half the bands who play there that will be a record crowd.

But.

The gig room is accessed via a narrow staircase and then down a small corridor. The toilets are accessed off that corridor. It’s a bottle neck when quiet, even with just 50 punters it will be impossible to have any sort of distancing.

So, what to do? Open up and knowingly put people at risk? Or stay closed and risk financial ruin for the venue and the crew?

Answers on a postcard...

Surely the gig room has another access route - fire escape? You could have a one way system and with only 50 people you could set up toilet queue upstairs.

50 people isn't a lot to manage. Is the ventilation good? That's the main thing.

 

[Badgers]

Surely the gig room has another access route - fire escape? You could have a one way system and with only 50 people you could set up toilet queue upstairs.

50 people isn't a lot to manage. Is the ventilation good? That's the main thing.

I suspect Bees knows the venue and had explored the options.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Surely the gig room has another access route - fire escape? You could have a one way system and with only 50 people you could set up toilet queue upstairs.

50 people isn't a lot to manage. Is the ventilation good? That's the main thing.

It’s hard to explain without a drawing of the exact layout, but the route to the toilets crosses the route into the room if that makes any sense. There’s no way of implementing any sort of one way that doesn’t impact on another iyswim.

 

[editor]

It’s hard to explain without a drawing of the exact layout, but the route to the toilets crosses the route into the room if that makes any sense. There’s no way of implementing any sort of one way that doesn’t impact on another iyswim.

Plus as soon as beer is added to the mix, people start shedding common sense and all gathering around for a chat.

 

[editor]

People - and venues - are going to take the piss with this because it's so uselessly vague

Substantial meal or a snack with your pint? Brixton heads into confusing Tier 2 Covid-19 restrictions.

As expected, London has been classified under the Tier 2 ‘High Alert’ Covid-19 restrictions from Dec 2nd, 2020. Pubs and bars must stay closed unless operating as restaurants, meaning t…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

People - and venues - are going to take the piss with this because it's so uselessly vague

Substantial meal or a snack with your pint? Brixton heads into confusing Tier 2 Covid-19 restrictions.

As expected, London has been classified under the Tier 2 ‘High Alert’ Covid-19 restrictions from Dec 2nd, 2020. Pubs and bars must stay closed unless operating as restaurants, meaning t…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

hospitality businesses selling food or drink for consumption on their premises are required to:

• provide table service only, in premises which sell alcohol
• close between 11pm and 5am (hospitality venues in airports, ports, transport services and motorway service areas are exempt)
• stop taking orders after 10pm

Buy a £9.99 Ryanair ticket to anywhere, hit the Spoons after security at Stansted, drink as long as you want, then leave the airport. Drink all night for a £9.99 entry fee

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Well, back to tier 3 here in B’ham, so that’s another set of venue plans out the window.

 

[editor]

Well, back to tier 3 here in B’ham, so that’s another set of venue plans out the window.

Sorry to hear that. I'm still totally fucked for DJ/band work and haven't had any work since March this year. It's getting hard to keep the spirits up sometimes.

 

[editor]

The Clapham Grand are going for it! Clapham Grand reopens with month of events throughout December – see the full listings here

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

The Clapham Grand are going for it! Clapham Grand reopens with month of events throughout December – see the full listings here

are the new rules making it "sustainable"?

 

[killer b]

are the new rules making it "sustainable"?

more likely the 300 grand arts council grant they were recently awarded tbh

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

ah yes, that would help.
A bit worried my 2 hours of sound teching booked for the next 2 saturdays will not actually happen despite being in tier 2.

 

[killer b]

ah yes, that would help.
A bit worried my 2 hours of sound teching booked for the next 2 saturdays will not actually happen despite being in tier 2.

I'd say if the venue you're booked at doesn't have an arts council rescue grant, they're going to struggle to make it pay - some might be prepared to subsidise it themselves and do it anyway, but it's not sustainable on the numbers they'll be able to get through the doors alone.

 

[Badgers]

Fuck the fuck off

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Fuck the fuck off

Oh for fucks sake.


COME ON TURKEYS, CLAP FOR XMAS

 

[editor]

more likely the 300 grand arts council grant they were recently awarded tbh

That won't go very far for a venue of that size that has more or less been closed for eight months. And how the fuck Pop Brixton managed to get nearly a quarter of a million from that same fund is anyone's guess. At least the Grand puts on regular gigs and shows every week.

 

[pesh]

Fuck the fuck off

We've destroyed the entire UK touring industry, now get over yourselves and do our little pub gig, it'll be great 'exposure'

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

We've destroyed the entire UK touring industry, now get over yourselves and do our little pub gig, it'll be great 'exposure'

can't beat XP points for payment.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Isle of Man has cancelled the TT for next year

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Isle of Man has cancelled the TT for next year

For those who don’t know, that would have been in June. Don’t make any summer plans just yet

 

[spitfire]

For those who don’t know, that would have been in June. Don’t make any summer plans just yet

I've watched bits of it on tv a few times but don't know a huge amount about the logistics, they basically take over the whole island as far as I can see? I guess they'd have to make quite an early call if so.

 

[Supine]

Isle of man is almost untouched by covid. It's not surprising they want to keep it that way.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Nick Cave has cancelled his 2021 tour.

We are very disappointed to announce that the Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds 2021 UK and European tour can no longer go ahead due to the ongoing situation with Covid-19.

The complexity and scale of the tour we had planned, combined with the continued uncertainty around the pandemic means that despite the hard work of everyone involved we have not been able to guarantee that the shows can happen.

For information on refunds please contact your point of purchase.

We are continuing to work on alternative plans for 2021 and 2022 and hope to announce some better news next year.

Sending love to you all.

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds.

 

[William of Walworth]

Nick Cave has cancelled his 2021 tour.

I was mainly expecting another (lengthy) postponement, but not a full-on cancellation!!!

(we had tickets for his rearranged Cardiff gig in April 2021, was originally early May 2020)

 

[Looby]

I was expecting the Nick Cave tour to be rescheduled but gutted it’s cancelled.

I wouldn’t have been keen to go to Birmingham in April for the rearranged date if it was going ahead.

 

[Voley]

WoW mentioning temperature checks to get access has made me wonder about how effective they are. If you're asymptomatic do you just get waved through to infect everyone?

 

[gosub]

I was expecting the Nick Cave tour to be rescheduled but gutted it’s cancelled.

I wouldn’t have been keen to go to Birmingham in April for the rearranged date if it was going ahead.

Bollocks Lisbon was going to be one of my make up for 2020 things

 

[William of Walworth]

WoW mentioning temperature checks to get access has made me wonder about how effective they are. If you're asymptomatic do you just get waved through to infect everyone?

I get your question definitely --it was a while ago that I mentioned it though.

Having thought about it a bit more now ....
For festivals, I doubt it would ever be possible or sensible just to do temp checks on their own. They would have to be combined with earlier actual Covid tests, with people being expected to show proof of negative on arrival, and also having an instant test on entry. Presuming those could be available by summer.

All too compl;icated most likely. I'm going through much more pessimistic mode atm anyway , after the Nick Cave news

And I'm trying to postpone thoughts about how vaccination might affect stuff for the better .... maybe (if I'm really pessimistic! ), until winter 2021

 

[Voley]

Yeah it's an odd one. They are doing it at football matches etc though. Perhaps it's an 'it's better than nothing' sort of measure. At least it's going to pick up symptomatic people.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Yeah it's an odd one. They are doing it at football matches etc though. Perhaps it's an 'it's better than nothing' sort of measure. At least it's going to pick up symptomatic people.

No measure is 100% effective - it's always about degrees of risk. I think a quick but not very accurate measure like that is probably useful if there are low levels of infection generally, not so much if they're high and spreading.