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Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

  • In this bulletin, we refer to the number of current coronavirus (COVID-19) infections within the community population; community in this instance refers to private residential households, and it excludes those in hospitals, care homes or other institutional settings.
  • In this bulletin, we use current COVID-19 infections to mean testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, with or without having symptoms, on a swab taken from the nose and throat.
  • An estimated 35,700 people (95% credible interval: 23,700 to 53,200) within the community population in England had COVID-19 during the most recent week, from 20 to 26 July 2020, equating to around 1 in 1,500 individuals.
  • There is now evidence to suggest a slight increase in the number of people in England testing positive on a nose and throat swab in recent weeks.
  • There is not enough evidence to say with confidence whether COVID-19 infection rates differ by region in England, nor whether infection rates have increased in different regions over the past six weeks.
  • During the most recent week (20 to 26 July 2020), we estimate there were around 0.78 new COVID-19 infections for every 10,000 people in the community population in England, equating to around 4,200 new cases per day (95% credible interval: 2,200 to 8,100).
  • Modelling of the rate of new infections over time suggests that there is now some evidence that the incidence of new infections has increased in recent weeks.
  • Between 26 April and 26 July, 6.2% of people tested positive for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 on a blood test, suggesting they had the infection in the past.
 
Also from that survey...

Based on exploratory modelling, we estimate that there were 0.78 new infections per 10,000 people followed for one day […] during the most recent week of the study (20 July to 26 July). This equates to 4,200 new infections per day (95% credible interval: 2,200 to 8,100).

Our findings suggest that there is now some evidence to suggest that the incidence of new cases has increased in recent weeks, following a low point of 0.34 new infections per 10,000 people followed for one day (95% credible interval: 0.25 to 0.46) during the week from 15 to 21 June. This follows an initial decrease in the incidence rate between May 2020, when the study began, and June 2020.
 
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Isn't it more that healthy young children are unlikely to become very ill, but they still become infected?
I said unaffected in that they might be infected but are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms. Even children with complex health needs are not really being severely affected.
 
Visited a skate shop on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh today that we have bought things from in the past. He has gone for protecting himself and his staff in a big way - he's installed a buzzer entry lock on the door, got a two people at a time sign up which he enforces by means of the door lock, and an automatic hand sanitiser dispenser inside which you are directed to use, masks mandatory obviously, and a big bench keeping customers well back from the till. You can tell he expects this to be the situation for a long time and he has invested accordingly. It doesn't seem to be putting anyone off - we had to wait to get in because there were two people in front of us, and someone else turned up while we were there and weren't put off by having to wait, either.
 
Not unaffected but more likely to be asymptomatic. So potentially spreaders.

“There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers.

Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.”

 
R is going up in Cornwall unsurprisingly (we've been really lucky so far). Friend talking to a shop assistant in Cornwall yesterday who asked a tourist to wear a mask before coming in the shop: "we've come down here to get away from all of that"

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Yeah there are some prize nobheads about down here. The other day it was a woman who was told she couldn't get on an overcrowded bus due to covid restrictions ranting at the driver, 'I thought you wanted people to come here and visit' (cue grim laughter from the other bus passengers) and then, 'you should have a double decker on this route' to more laughter and shouts of 'welcome to the countryside!'. There is no way in hell a double decker bus would get down half the roads on that route, and in any case the bus driver probably isn't the one making these decisions. The buses here are heavily subsidised by ratepayers and have been near empty for months as the guidelines were 'only use public transport to get to work' and there aren't enough buses for anyone to reliably get to work and back.
 
“There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers.

Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.”

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Children certainly haven't been ruled out as spreaders. And as for the first sentence I'd imagine a very tiny percentage of cases have a confirmed vector anyway.
 
“There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers.

Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.”

that's a bit chicken and egg though, isn't it? if most schools are closed as a precaution, there will be very few cases of pupil to teacher transmission.

and it's not just pupil to teacher which is significant, of course, it's also pupil to pupil and then in to other, more vulnerable, family members etc
 
“There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers.

Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.”

I don't doubt that. I was merely correcting nagapies assertion that children are unaffected as it is not true.
 
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