Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media
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I was in this thread only 20-odd minutes ago and now ....
Was he a returning banned poster?
<ETA> : Guessed that before I saw posts from FridgeMagnet on page 15 of this other thread ... who knows? who 'he' was though ...
Was he a returning banned poster?
<ETA> : Guessed that before I saw posts from FridgeMagnet on page 15 of this other thread ... who knows? who 'he' was though ...
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I was in this thread only 20-odd minutes ago and now ....
Was he a returning banned poster?
Yes. Who, I wonder?!!!
J Ed
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I honestly did not see this polling boost coming, did anyone else? Any guesses on why we've seen it? The Tories are pretty divided and the budget was a big fuck you to almost all of us, or are people just getting used to actually having a socialist leader of the opposition? Or is it a bit of both?
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I think it might be the cuts to disability benefits - it's a blatantly cruel stance and getting lots of media attention.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
My guess - not the budget (surprise surprise, before the election it was all great, after the election it's all shit), but the EU. The tories are at each other, openly and really rather personally. They're slagging each other off way more than even Blairites are slagging off Corbyn atm. It's surely not a good look.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
The Tory split on the EU combined with the maquis all going on some kind of sponsored silence, probably.
J Ed
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It is disgustingly cruel, but why now? The Tories (and yellow Tories) have been treating the disabled like shit over and over and over basically since they got in with the coalition government.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Changes to PIP in the budget getting lots of media attention.
J Ed
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That's a good point, I hadn't considered this but a lot of the most ardently anti-Corbyn PLP members have been busy aiming their ire at Brexit.
It's not my position but it has been very smart politics for the Labour leadership to take a very mild pro-remain position while not associating themselves with the campaign all that much.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep, I think so.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
not even the mail had a pro-budget headline today. Nothing about useless eaters getting their dues like but how his sums were a massive gamble and looked off etc
Is this undermining against pro eu tories like how they snidely run full page CHARITY SCANDAL and anti NHS stuff all the time? Could be.
on your last point, they have been cutting for ages but the more they do the more feel it and it starts to impact if not them, someone they know. Remember the proposed cut to in work tax credits etc
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Perhaps, though whether that is down to smart politics or because he (finally) has something to get them to pipe down with (ie: his previous opinions on the EU, TTIP etc) is something only they know. Personally, I think its the latter - they don't really respond to any other kind of argument.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
There are lots of people who don't go looking for news like that, and it doesn't directly affect them. They need it spelled out in words of one syllable - most people aren't cruel and heartless, but they can look past a lot until it's too obvious to ignore.
"Fuck you disabled people, you don't need your 30 quid and we need our billion. Corporation tax down." Osborne's fucked up, this is impossible to spin.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Or it's a calculated first year budget. They don't need or even necessarily want to be popular at the moment.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Aye, fair point. Osborne is auditioning for the big job though, between the EU and the economy he personally has quite the balancing act to perform.
J Ed
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Is there any possibility that Britain now just has austerity fatigue? I was being flippant on the budget thread when I said that jam tomorrow has become 'you can never have jam' but that really does seem to be the narrative now, and that is a harder narrative to sell than pushing the narrative that we all just have to endure before the government 'sorts out the finances'. By contrast, anything Labour say looks better than that.
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nino_savatte
No pasaran!
MarkyMarrk was a returning banned poster? Now there's a surprise. 
He'll be back. His sort always come back (and get banned again).
He'll be back. His sort always come back (and get banned again).
The Pale King
Well-Known Member
I think you're right. It's almost 'no jam, no tomorrow'. A weird futuricity in which we atone evermore for the sins of our past (greed, overconsumption, overborrowing etc). The future (once bright and involving less work and more leisure) now merely an unfulfilled debt to the past. It's highly punitive, and it's no wonder (although still heartening) that people are kicking against it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
like a bad penny
There have been other cuts to disability benfits, Osborne has made a tactical error highlighting this change, linking it to the deficit, the Grimleys at the DWP are hopping mad, they just wanted to slip it through as usual.
Tipping point, for some reason, media is allowing real critics of the changes on, not then having on some turncoat who says it is wonderful, public is ready to listen. Its taken a long time, I hope Voids blog stops the swearing, ultra radicalism, as i suspect it is going to become more influential/recognised etc.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Less than no fucking chance of that.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Meanwhile, over at 1 Canada Square, the home of the Torygraph, they're claiming that if Corbyn becomes PM it will be a "return to the era of beer and sandwiches at No. 10". This from a paper that supports a party in government that has no industrial policy.
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